Re: t-and-f: hs uniforms
A sane way to deal with it would be to write into the rule that violations concerning uniforms or jewelry are considered waived unless raised by an official or opposing coach prior to the start of the race or field event. If something is a problem, fix it before hand instead of playing gotcha after. As a sometimes clerk or referee, I find this far preferable to what often happens. Ed Koch -Original Message- From: Lee Nichols <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 10:49 AM Subject: Re: t-and-f: hs uniforms >Apparently, there is no need to press those Wisconsin officials about >these particular girls -- according to an AP story yesterday, the >team was reinstated. > >However, it would be smart to get such rules liberalized or >eliminated to avoid such messes in the future. > >Lee > >>At 11:45 PM -0500 5/28/02, William Bahnfleth wrote: >>>I heard some details on a local radio broadcast this morning. >>> >>>The DQ'd team won the race in question by over 9 seconds and is >>>prevented from advancing in the tournament unless legal action >>>threatened by parents is effective. The HS association says they >>>can't help because an appeal was not filed within 30 minutes. >>> >>>The violation did not have to do with the uniform itself, but with >>>a rule about "visible sports bras". They must be solid black, gray >>>or white. The offender was wearing one with 1/4 inch trim. >>> >>>I don't believe there are any rules about invisible sports bras. >>> >>>Bill Bahnfleth >> >>To all--If you all feel strongly about this, go to the Wisconsin >>Interscholastic Athletic Association's web site...there are e-mail >>addresses listed for their key personnel. >> >>Though I've been out of coaching high schoolers for a number of >>years here in Washington, I must agree that for the most part, the >>uniform rules are ridiculous. >> >>The Wisconsin IAA site is at: >> >>http://www.wiaawi.org/ >> >>Paul Merca >> >>> >>>At 07:37 PM 5/28/2002 -0700, Dan Kaplan wrote: >>>>--- "Michael J. Roth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>> Please ... get this uniform rule changed across the US to read as >>>>> follows: "... The top and bottom are of a color scheme so as to allow >>>>> for officials to differentiate between competitors of opposing >>>>> programs and recognize which program a participant belongs to." >>>> >>>>Careful, I think that definition might just make things even worse. We >>>>have 3 schools in the conference with an identical make of uniform >>>>(speedsuits). One is black, one is dark purple, and the other is navy. >>>>Very difficult to tell apart unless you can read the name from straight on >>>>or recognize the athlete. Would these schools have to invest in new >>>>uniforms under that definition? >>>> >>>>Dan >>>> >>>>= >>>>http://AccountBiller.com - MyCalendar, D-Man, ReSearch, etc. >>>>http://Run-Down.com - 10,000 Running Links, Fantasy T&F >>>> >>>> @o Dan Kaplan - [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> <|\/ <^- ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) >>>>_/ \ \/\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (lifetime forwarding address) >>>>/ / (503)370-9969 phone/fax >>>> >>>>__ >>>>Do You Yahoo!? >>>>Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup >>>>http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com > >-- >Lee Nichols >Assistant News Editor >The Austin Chronicle >512/454-5766, ext. 138 >fax 512/458-6910 >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: t-and-f: hs uniforms
Apparently, there is no need to press those Wisconsin officials about these particular girls -- according to an AP story yesterday, the team was reinstated. However, it would be smart to get such rules liberalized or eliminated to avoid such messes in the future. Lee >At 11:45 PM -0500 5/28/02, William Bahnfleth wrote: >>I heard some details on a local radio broadcast this morning. >> >>The DQ'd team won the race in question by over 9 seconds and is >>prevented from advancing in the tournament unless legal action >>threatened by parents is effective. The HS association says they >>can't help because an appeal was not filed within 30 minutes. >> >>The violation did not have to do with the uniform itself, but with >>a rule about "visible sports bras". They must be solid black, gray >>or white. The offender was wearing one with 1/4 inch trim. >> >>I don't believe there are any rules about invisible sports bras. >> >>Bill Bahnfleth > >To all--If you all feel strongly about this, go to the Wisconsin >Interscholastic Athletic Association's web site...there are e-mail >addresses listed for their key personnel. > >Though I've been out of coaching high schoolers for a number of >years here in Washington, I must agree that for the most part, the >uniform rules are ridiculous. > >The Wisconsin IAA site is at: > >http://www.wiaawi.org/ > >Paul Merca > >> >>At 07:37 PM 5/28/2002 -0700, Dan Kaplan wrote: >>>--- "Michael J. Roth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Please ... get this uniform rule changed across the US to read as follows: "... The top and bottom are of a color scheme so as to allow for officials to differentiate between competitors of opposing programs and recognize which program a participant belongs to." >>> >>>Careful, I think that definition might just make things even worse. We >>>have 3 schools in the conference with an identical make of uniform >>>(speedsuits). One is black, one is dark purple, and the other is navy. >>>Very difficult to tell apart unless you can read the name from straight on >>>or recognize the athlete. Would these schools have to invest in new >>>uniforms under that definition? >>> >>>Dan >>> >>>= >>>http://AccountBiller.com - MyCalendar, D-Man, ReSearch, etc. >>>http://Run-Down.com - 10,000 Running Links, Fantasy T&F >>> >>> @o Dan Kaplan - [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> <|\/ <^- ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) >>>_/ \ \/\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (lifetime forwarding address) >>>/ / (503)370-9969 phone/fax >>> >>>__ >>>Do You Yahoo!? >>>Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup >>>http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com -- Lee Nichols Assistant News Editor The Austin Chronicle 512/454-5766, ext. 138 fax 512/458-6910 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: t-and-f: hs uniforms
I generally work as clerk or starter at indoor meets in CT, and I can't begin to tell you how many minutes I wasted and how much time was added to meets by making kids remove necklaces, bracelets, earrings and other assorted piercings (and half the time the boys had more than the girls). At yesterday's state class meet, I noticed a proliferation of sweatbands around heads, arms, and even legs. How long until the Federation expands the ban to these? Don't they realize that, just like drugs, the athletes will stay one step ahead of the officials? The ultimate conclusion is to have everyone compete dressed the way the ancient Greeks did, au natural (which might make some, like HJer Amy Acuff, happy, to say nothing of the fans). Jim Gerweck Running Times
Re: t-and-f: hs uniforms
At 11:45 PM -0500 5/28/02, William Bahnfleth wrote: >I heard some details on a local radio broadcast this morning. > >The DQ'd team won the race in question by over 9 seconds and is >prevented from advancing in the tournament unless legal action >threatened by parents is effective. The HS association says they >can't help because an appeal was not filed within 30 minutes. > >The violation did not have to do with the uniform itself, but with a >rule about "visible sports bras". They must be solid black, gray or >white. The offender was wearing one with 1/4 inch trim. > >I don't believe there are any rules about invisible sports bras. > >Bill Bahnfleth To all--If you all feel strongly about this, go to the Wisconsin Interscholastic Athletic Association's web site...there are e-mail addresses listed for their key personnel. Though I've been out of coaching high schoolers for a number of years here in Washington, I must agree that for the most part, the uniform rules are ridiculous. The Wisconsin IAA site is at: http://www.wiaawi.org/ Paul Merca > >At 07:37 PM 5/28/2002 -0700, Dan Kaplan wrote: >>--- "Michael J. Roth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Please ... get this uniform rule changed across the US to read as >>> follows: "... The top and bottom are of a color scheme so as to allow >>> for officials to differentiate between competitors of opposing >>> programs and recognize which program a participant belongs to." >> >>Careful, I think that definition might just make things even worse. We >>have 3 schools in the conference with an identical make of uniform >>(speedsuits). One is black, one is dark purple, and the other is navy. >>Very difficult to tell apart unless you can read the name from straight on >>or recognize the athlete. Would these schools have to invest in new >>uniforms under that definition? >> >>Dan >> >>= >>http://AccountBiller.com - MyCalendar, D-Man, ReSearch, etc. >>http://Run-Down.com - 10,000 Running Links, Fantasy T&F >> >> @o Dan Kaplan - [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> <|\/ <^- ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) >>_/ \ \/\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (lifetime forwarding address) >>/ / (503)370-9969 phone/fax >> >>__ >>Do You Yahoo!? >>Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup >>http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com
Re: t-and-f: hs uniforms
I heard some details on a local radio broadcast this morning. The DQ'd team won the race in question by over 9 seconds and is prevented from advancing in the tournament unless legal action threatened by parents is effective. The HS association says they can't help because an appeal was not filed within 30 minutes. The violation did not have to do with the uniform itself, but with a rule about "visible sports bras". They must be solid black, gray or white. The offender was wearing one with 1/4 inch trim. I don't believe there are any rules about invisible sports bras. Bill Bahnfleth At 07:37 PM 5/28/2002 -0700, Dan Kaplan wrote: >--- "Michael J. Roth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Please ... get this uniform rule changed across the US to read as > > follows: "... The top and bottom are of a color scheme so as to allow > > for officials to differentiate between competitors of opposing > > programs and recognize which program a participant belongs to." > >Careful, I think that definition might just make things even worse. We >have 3 schools in the conference with an identical make of uniform >(speedsuits). One is black, one is dark purple, and the other is navy. >Very difficult to tell apart unless you can read the name from straight on >or recognize the athlete. Would these schools have to invest in new >uniforms under that definition? > >Dan > >= >http://AccountBiller.com - MyCalendar, D-Man, ReSearch, etc. >http://Run-Down.com - 10,000 Running Links, Fantasy T&F > > @o Dan Kaplan - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <|\/ <^- ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) >_/ \ \/\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (lifetime forwarding address) >/ / (503)370-9969 phone/fax > >__ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup >http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com
Re: t-and-f: hs uniforms
--- "Michael J. Roth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Please ... get this uniform rule changed across the US to read as > follows: "... The top and bottom are of a color scheme so as to allow > for officials to differentiate between competitors of opposing > programs and recognize which program a participant belongs to." Careful, I think that definition might just make things even worse. We have 3 schools in the conference with an identical make of uniform (speedsuits). One is black, one is dark purple, and the other is navy. Very difficult to tell apart unless you can read the name from straight on or recognize the athlete. Would these schools have to invest in new uniforms under that definition? Dan = http://AccountBiller.com - MyCalendar, D-Man, ReSearch, etc. http://Run-Down.com - 10,000 Running Links, Fantasy T&F @o Dan Kaplan - [EMAIL PROTECTED] <|\/ <^- ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) _/ \ \/\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (lifetime forwarding address) / / (503)370-9969 phone/fax __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com
t-and-f: hs uniforms
There are enough people here who are involved with the NFHS & State Fed Ruling bodies. Please remove heads from rectums and get this uniform rule changed across the US to read as follows: "A Uniform is that which is issued and/or approved by the scholastic program. The Uniform consists of a competition top and bottom. The top and bottom are of a color scheme so as to allow for officials to differentiate between competitors of opposing programs and recognize which program a participant belongs to." This ends all the BS that is perpetuated by AAA (Assholes Across America). Gimme a F***ing GUN, so I can perform a little Darwinistic population control. MJR
