Re: [Tagging] Shoulder and traffic indicator tags

2010-08-04 Thread Dave F.

 On 03/08/2010 14:18, Daniel Tremblay wrote:
Yes, I can bike on normal lane and I do it.  I don't like however to 
find myself on a 90km/h road with no shoulders.  This is the kind of 
situation I would like to avoid when preparing my trip.  This is why 
the shoulder indicator would be usefull IMO.




A shoulder tag is fine, but it should be added as a sub tag of the main 
highway=* such as shoulder=yes/no  shoulder_width=* etc.


It should not be associated with bicycle=* or cycleway=*. If it's a 
shoulder then vehicles can enter it.


If there's a lane at the side of the road designated for bikes then it's 
not a shoulder.


Take a look at this for relevant  examples:

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bicycle#Cycle_lanes_and_bus.2Ftaxi_lanes

Cheers
Dave F.

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Re: [Tagging] Shoulder and traffic indicator tags

2010-08-04 Thread Daniel Tremblay
I buy Dave's comment (see below).

Forget about the cycleway and bicycle tags and lets develop a shoulder set
of tag then (which was, in the first place, the subject of this
discussion).  Mostly informative and not taken into consideration within the
opencyclemap project.

You know, after a third and fourth thoughts about this ... I can see if
there is a shoulder on almost every road in my area simply by looking at
Google Street View ...  I guess one of the purpose of Openstreetmap is to
not rely on Google or other mapping source but ...



Daniel





2010/8/4 Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com

  On 03/08/2010 14:18, Daniel Tremblay wrote:

 Yes, I can bike on normal lane and I do it.  I don't like however to find
 myself on a 90km/h road with no shoulders.  This is the kind of situation I
 would like to avoid when preparing my trip.  This is why the shoulder
 indicator would be usefull IMO.


 A shoulder tag is fine, but it should be added as a sub tag of the main
 highway=* such as shoulder=yes/no  shoulder_width=* etc.

 It should not be associated with bicycle=* or cycleway=*. If it's a
 shoulder then vehicles can enter it.

 If there's a lane at the side of the road designated for bikes then it's
 not a shoulder.

 Take a look at this for relevant  examples:

 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bicycle#Cycle_lanes_and_bus.2Ftaxi_lanes

 Cheers
 Dave F.

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