Re: [Tagging] Airport subtypes

2010-12-31 Thread info
 On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote:
 A recent import has highlighted the lack of suitable subtypes of
 airport in the tagging schema.
 There are some pages of lapsed concepts on the wiki of different
 airport subtypes

 A scan through the wikipedia gives me
 international airport
 domestic airport
 regional airport
 airstrip or airfield

 +1

 Why not adopt the usual subtagging scheme:

 aeroway=aerodrome
 aerodrome=international|regional|domestic|etc.

+1

Although I'd be careful about the first three without accurate knowledge
as they do have significant operational differences (particularly
international).

It's ideal for nominating airstrip or airfield though.

Cheers
Ross



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Re: [Tagging] Airport subtypes

2010-12-31 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 3:58 AM,  i...@4x4falcon.com wrote:
 Although I'd be careful about the first three without accurate knowledge
 as they do have significant operational differences (particularly
 international).

It's my understanding that international status is not necessarily a
measure of a major airport; it simply means it's equipped to handle
international flights, but it may have one puddle jumper a day. It's
probably a decent approximation if we can't find anything better
though.

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Re: [Tagging] Airport subtypes

2010-12-31 Thread info
 On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 3:58 AM,  i...@4x4falcon.com wrote:
 Although I'd be careful about the first three without accurate knowledge
 as they do have significant operational differences (particularly
 international).

 It's my understanding that international status is not necessarily a
 measure of a major airport; it simply means it's equipped to handle
 international flights, but it may have one puddle jumper a day. It's
 probably a decent approximation if we can't find anything better
 though.

That's correct.

The problem occurs if someone think's an airport is international and tags
it as such.  I would become an issue for anyone looking up the information
and seeing I can land there and do customs/immigration/etc when they
really can not.

Cheers
Ross




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Re: [Tagging] Why addr:state rather than is_in:state? (response to 2010-12-26 05:29:46)

2010-12-31 Thread Robert Elsenaar
Totally agree. More over, every time you use the symbol : in your tag, you 
mean that the subtag is telling something more specific about the maintag 
thats in front of it.
This methode should be introduced more widely all over OSM to avoid annoying 
new and unnesseccerry tags or values.


Robert

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2010-12-26 05:29:46)


(from ceyockey) I am of the opinion that addr:state should only be used in 
the context of an address, not as a standalone synonym for is_in:state, 
meaning that I support the use of is_in:state for routes. 
(http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Ceyockey)



==ORIGINAL BELOW==
From: Nathan Edgars II
Subject: Why addr:state rather than is_in:state?
Newsgroups: gmane.comp.gis.openstreetmap.tagging, 
gmane.comp.gis.openstreetmap.region.us

Date: 2010-12-26 05:29:46 GMT (2 days, 17 hours and 26 minutes ago)

Many route relations use addr:state to describe what state the route
is in. Should a tag intended for addresses be used this way, or is
is_in:state a better tag to use?


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Re: [Tagging] Why addr:state rather than is_in:state? (response to 2010-12-26 05:29:46)

2010-12-31 Thread Serge Wroclawski
On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 7:57 AM, Robert Elsenaar rob...@elsenaar.info wrote:
 Totally agree. More over, every time you use the symbol : in your tag, you
 mean that the subtag is telling something more specific about the maintag
 thats in front of it.

I have no idea what subtag and maintag are, but the symbol tag
shouldn't be there.

- Serge

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Re: [Tagging] Airport subtypes

2010-12-31 Thread Alan Mintz

At 2010-12-30 23:43, Elizabeth Dodd wrote:

A recent import has highlighted the lack of suitable subtypes of
airport in the tagging schema.
There are some pages of lapsed concepts on the wiki of different
airport subtypes

A scan through the wikipedia gives me
international airport
domestic airport
regional airport
airstrip or airfield


IMO, a single categorization would be a poor choice. Maybe the ICAO or IATA 
or individual countries' aviation authority have defined categories for 
these things but I doubt people know them, and any attempt to tag 
consistently would surely prove futile.


I would suggest, instead, listing facilities and services available, much 
like we tag gas/petrol/fuel stations, e.g. fuels, repair, oxygen, 
customs/immigration, etc. This is the approach used in the US FAA's Airport 
Facilities Directory (which could be a decent source of import data if 
someone would like to work on it).


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Alan Mintz alan_mintz+...@earthlink.net


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Re: [Tagging] designated bike lane

2010-12-31 Thread Dave F.

On 31/12/2010 22:27, Anthony wrote:

Any suggestions how to tag this?
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:IMG_7491.JPG


http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bicycle

L2?

Cheers
Dave F.

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Re: [Tagging] designated bike lane

2010-12-31 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
 Any suggestions how to tag this?
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:IMG_7491.JPG

cycleway=lane cycle_hazard=bike lane too narrow

or unicycleway=lane (would work better if there were a bike stencil on
the lane, since only the back half would fit) :)

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