Re: [Tagging] Sports_centre, gym, dojo
On Fri, 2011-04-08 at 15:24 -0400, Richard Weait wrote: > Also locally, a "gymnasium" is a large indoor sport floor which can be > configured for multiple sports like gymnastics, basketball, > volleyball, murderball, etc. taginfo says only 16 instances of > leisure=gymnasium are in OSM at the moment. A lone gymnasium would > seem unusual around here. They are typically included as part of a > leisure=sports_centre. Does that match with experiences elsewhere? > > Is the distinction between gym and gymnasium too fine? Should > synonyms be found? I think the distinction is fairly clear. A 'gymnasium' is where gymnastics are done (such as spring board, horse, and various rolls and flips. A 'gym' is more where you stay in one place (or move from location to location after a period of time) but specifically target one area, for example bench-press, chin-ups or sit-ups/push-ups. > And what about martial arts dojos? Amenity=dojo and sport=dojo are > rare indeed with only a handful of entries. I suspect that in western culture, gyms are much more common than dojo's. The fact that theyre rare in OSM, I believe is indicative of their relative rarity (when compared to gyms) in the western world. David ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Sports_centre, gym, dojo
On 9 April 2011 06:27, Mike N wrote: > I agree that a fitness club/center doesn't fit well as a sports centre - > which I would visualize as having multiple types of facilities for > competitive and/or community social purposes. A sports centre doesn't have to have mixed sports (though most do). A place that has four or five basketball courts, some with spectator seating, others several to a hall for practice and league games is still a sports centre, even though there's only one sport played there. Stephen ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Sports_centre, gym, dojo
On 9 April 2011 05:24, Richard Weait wrote: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure=sports_centre > might include racquet sport courts, a gymnasium, exercise equipment, a > running track and an ice hockey rink. Around here, that might also include an "indoor sports centre" (indoor cricket, soccer, "beach" volleyball, etc) > What is the ideal tagging for a shop with exercise equipment for use. > Treadmills, stair climbers, stationary bikes, free weights and weight > machines for use by members. Local slang here might call that a > "gym". amenity=gym is used in ~400 locations with sport=gym and > leisure=gym each near 50. We'd call that a gym as well, even though the sign might say fitness centre. > Also locally, a "gymnasium" is a large indoor sport floor which can be > configured for multiple sports like gymnastics, basketball, > volleyball, murderball, etc. taginfo says only 16 instances of > leisure=gymnasium are in OSM at the moment. A lone gymnasium would > seem unusual around here. They are typically included as part of a > leisure=sports_centre. Does that match with experiences elsewhere? We rarely see them alone, but there would be more of them at schools and camps around here than sports centres, though they have them too. > Is the distinction between gym and gymnasium too fine? Should > synonyms be found? Probably not a bad idea. When I was at school, we used to call the school gymnasium the gym. Though now, when I hear the word gym, I expect it to be the fitness/weight training type place instead. I don't really care what the tag is, as long as if you search for gym in the wiki it directs you to the tag we decide on. Stephen ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Sports_centre, gym, dojo
On 4/8/2011 4:05 PM, Brad Neuhauser wrote: What you refer to as "gym" sounds like what I'd call a "health club" or "fitness club". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_club Is it supposed to be tagged as sports centre? The wiki description makes me think a sports centre is a pretty large structure, whereas there are some pretty small health club locations. I agree that a fitness club/center doesn't fit well as a sports centre - which I would visualize as having multiple types of facilities for competitive and/or community social purposes. I also think that "Fitness center" is the best overall category name; "xxx club" has negative or exclusive connotations in the US because of restrictive, scammy, or 1-sided contracts. Regarding dojos, is there something that could apply more generally than dojo (which seems to usually be used for martial arts)? For example, there is a fencing club near me, or what about a small aerobics or yoga studio? I run across the small sport fencing / aerobics / yoga / pilates types of facilities frequently. It would seem that leisure=pitch sport=yoga/pilates/areobic_dance/fence... could be fit as a stretch. Otherwise it would equally fit as leisure=fitness_centre sport=yoga/pilates/areobic_dance/fence/mixed... Or leisure=fitness_centre weight_machines=yes aerobics=yes yoga=yes pilates=yes fencing=yes ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Sports_centre, gym, dojo
What you refer to as "gym" sounds like what I'd call a "health club" or "fitness club". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_club Is it supposed to be tagged as sports centre? The wiki description makes me think a sports centre is a pretty large structure, whereas there are some pretty small health club locations. Regarding dojos, is there something that could apply more generally than dojo (which seems to usually be used for martial arts)? For example, there is a fencing club near me, or what about a small aerobics or yoga studio? Thanks, Brad On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Richard Weait wrote: > May will be sport and activity month for Project of the Week / Project > of the Month. > > Some aspects of tags in this space are well understood and widely > used. Can we clear up a few more of them? > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure=sports_centre > might include racquet sport courts, a gymnasium, exercise equipment, a > running track and an ice hockey rink. > > leisure=pitch, sport=* is well established. > > What is the ideal tagging for a shop with exercise equipment for use. > Treadmills, stair climbers, stationary bikes, free weights and weight > machines for use by members. Local slang here might call that a > "gym". amenity=gym is used in ~400 locations with sport=gym and > leisure=gym each near 50. > > Also locally, a "gymnasium" is a large indoor sport floor which can be > configured for multiple sports like gymnastics, basketball, > volleyball, murderball, etc. taginfo says only 16 instances of > leisure=gymnasium are in OSM at the moment. A lone gymnasium would > seem unusual around here. They are typically included as part of a > leisure=sports_centre. Does that match with experiences elsewhere? > > Is the distinction between gym and gymnasium too fine? Should > synonyms be found? > > And what about martial arts dojos? Amenity=dojo and sport=dojo are > rare indeed with only a handful of entries. A dojo might be part of a > gym that has a sport floor or held as an event at a sports_centre. > Others are stand alone businesses. Around here, they are often in a > retail store front, with a sport fioor of some sort, and changing > rooms. They might also sell some of the tools or clothing associated > with the sport. I'm inclined towards amenity=dojo, > sport=martial_arts, martial_art=$specific_art > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
[Tagging] Sports_centre, gym, dojo
May will be sport and activity month for Project of the Week / Project of the Month. Some aspects of tags in this space are well understood and widely used. Can we clear up a few more of them? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure=sports_centre might include racquet sport courts, a gymnasium, exercise equipment, a running track and an ice hockey rink. leisure=pitch, sport=* is well established. What is the ideal tagging for a shop with exercise equipment for use. Treadmills, stair climbers, stationary bikes, free weights and weight machines for use by members. Local slang here might call that a "gym". amenity=gym is used in ~400 locations with sport=gym and leisure=gym each near 50. Also locally, a "gymnasium" is a large indoor sport floor which can be configured for multiple sports like gymnastics, basketball, volleyball, murderball, etc. taginfo says only 16 instances of leisure=gymnasium are in OSM at the moment. A lone gymnasium would seem unusual around here. They are typically included as part of a leisure=sports_centre. Does that match with experiences elsewhere? Is the distinction between gym and gymnasium too fine? Should synonyms be found? And what about martial arts dojos? Amenity=dojo and sport=dojo are rare indeed with only a handful of entries. A dojo might be part of a gym that has a sport floor or held as an event at a sports_centre. Others are stand alone businesses. Around here, they are often in a retail store front, with a sport fioor of some sort, and changing rooms. They might also sell some of the tools or clothing associated with the sport. I'm inclined towards amenity=dojo, sport=martial_arts, martial_art=$specific_art ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] etymology of street names
2011/4/8 Jo > In Ghent (Belgium) I find the following in the name tags: > > Henri Farmanstraat ((Luchthavenpionier, 1874-1958)) > Vincent Evrardlaan ((Oud burgemeester van Gentbrugge, 1896-1995)) > Guido Gezelle straat ((Dichter, 1830-1899)) > > Interesting information, but technically not really part of the name of the > street. (Nobody will add that as part of an addres). Still, I also already > wanted to be able to add this information. Can this information be stored in > a name:etymology-tag? Good idea, but not with "etymology" as the name. This is not the etymology; that would be the philological origins of the word. Here we are talking about a description of the person the place is named after, and especially the reason why he deserved the honour. You have to keep in mind, though, that this information is not strictly part of the geographical characteristics of the way/place, but more of an occasional addendum. Here in Italy this caption is often included in older signs, or in newer signs in the historic centre that usually have some better quality, but it's usually ignored on newer signs (like this [1] ). > mvg, > > Polyglot Regards, Simone [1] http://giandri.altervista.org/Prigioniero/ViaBosso.JPG ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
[Tagging] etymology of street names
In Ghent (Belgium) I find the following in the name tags: Henri Farmanstraat ((Luchthavenpionier, 1874-1958)) Vincent Evrardlaan ((Oud burgemeester van Gentbrugge, 1896-1995)) Guido Gezelle straat ((Dichter, 1830-1899)) Interesting information, but technically not really part of the name of the street. (Nobody will add that as part of an addres). Still, I also already wanted to be able to add this information. Can this information be stored in a name:etymology-tag? And while we're at it, we may be able to add a link to Wikipedia as well? name:wikipedia=nl:Guido Gezelle What do you think? mvg, Polyglot ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
