[Tagging] Proposed feature - Sidewalks as separate ways - Voting

2011-04-12 Thread David Paleino
Hello people,
since there have been no discussion in the last days, I believe the ideas are
clear enough about the proposal. If you have questions, please post them to the
proposal's talk page, I'll reply promptly (or will try to :)).

In any case, the voting is open:

  http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Sidewalk_as_separate_way

As per the wiki guidelines, the voting period is 14 days. Starting today,
ending Apr, 26.


Have a nice day,
David

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[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - vegetarian (and other diets)

2011-04-12 Thread Tom Chance
Hello,

I've moved this proposal to the vote, it has been open for discussion for a
few months and has now been used in the wild for a similar period of time to
see how well it works in practice.

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Vegetarian

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/VegetarianRegards,
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[Tagging] access forbidden for tourist busses

2011-04-12 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
Recently I found this sign which I interpret as access forbidden to
touristic busses:

http://www.23hq.com/dieterdreist/photo/6610385

It is at a driveway to the local cemetery, near a very popular
monument (unesco world heritage). Do we have to invent another access
tag, or is there already something in use?

My first idea was tourist_bus=no

cheers,
Martin

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Re: [Tagging] access forbidden for tourist busses

2011-04-12 Thread John Smith
On 12 April 2011 19:22, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:
 Recently I found this sign which I interpret as access forbidden to
 touristic busses:

 http://www.23hq.com/dieterdreist/photo/6610385

 It is at a driveway to the local cemetery, near a very popular
 monument (unesco world heritage). Do we have to invent another access
 tag, or is there already something in use?

 My first idea was tourist_bus=no

Why not use access:*=* ?

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Re: [Tagging] access forbidden for tourist busses

2011-04-12 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/4/12 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com:

 My first idea was tourist_bus=no

 Why not use access:*=* ?


Usually we tag foot=no instead of access:foot=no, and I don't see why
I should change this standard here.

My question was: which key is used for tourist busses. I couldn't
find them on the access-page:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Access

cheers,
Martin

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Re: [Tagging] access forbidden for tourist busses

2011-04-12 Thread John Smith
On 12 April 2011 20:01, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:
 2011/4/12 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com:

 My first idea was tourist_bus=no

 Why not use access:*=* ?


 Usually we tag foot=no instead of access:foot=no, and I don't see why
 I should change this standard here.

There is a lot of access:*=* for vehicles, so you would be going against things.

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Re: [Tagging] access forbidden for tourist busses

2011-04-12 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/4/12 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com:
 Why not use access:*=* ?


 Usually we tag foot=no instead of access:foot=no, and I don't see why
 I should change this standard here.

 There is a lot of access:*=* for vehicles, so you would be going against 
 things.


Where? I can't find them:
http://taginfo.openstreetmap.de:8001/search?q=access#keys

are you talking about
188 shoulder:access:bicycle
or about
38 access:bus and 33 access:hgv ?

compare this to 45187 hgv...

cheers,
Martin

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Re: [Tagging] etymology of street names

2011-04-12 Thread Steve Doerr

On 09/04/2011 15:30, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote:

2011/4/8 Simone Saviolosimone.savi...@gmail.com:

Good idea, but not with etymology as the name. This is not the etymology;
that would be the philological origins of the word.


+1



Here we are talking
about a description of the person the place is named after, and especially
the reason why he deserved the honour.


+1

One possibility would be to use a tag like
name:wikipedia=language:article name (presetting name to a
wikipedia-tag-like-construction). Most important persons will have
their own wikipedia article.



-1.

It seems that the intention here is to record the words on the sign. 
Maybe the word eponymy would be appropriate?


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Re: [Tagging] access forbidden for tourist busses

2011-04-12 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/4/12 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com:
 On 12 April 2011 20:36, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:
 Where? I can't find them:


 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:access%3Dbdouble


Wikipage modified 13 times, in the database 0 (zero) occurrences ;-)

http://taginfo.openstreetmap.de:8001/keys/access%3Abdouble

I suggest you change this tagging proposal, so it is consistent with
the rest of the access restrictions. Given no objects tagged with this
tag a modification should be straight forward.

cheers,
Martin

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Re: [Tagging] access forbidden for tourist busses

2011-04-12 Thread David Murn
On Tue, 2011-04-12 at 12:01 +0200, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote:
 2011/4/12 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com:
 
  My first idea was tourist_bus=no
 
  Why not use access:*=* ?
 
 
 Usually we tag foot=no instead of access:foot=no, and I don't see why
 I should change this standard here.

To be fair, using that schema, we also tag ski, horse, vehicle,
bicycle, motorcycle, moped, motorcar, goods, hgv, psv, bus, taxi
snowmobile, emergency, hazmat, etc.  Surely it makes sense to have a
standard 'access' class key, rather than having 30 different keys?

Just because one method of tagging has more use than another, it doesnt
necessarily mean that its correct or the best way to do it, especially
in the situation of having dozens of access tags (which arent even
classed under access) with different meanings depending on their
context.  For example, access:emergency is quite different to
emergency=*, the former is obviously an access restriction/allowance,
the latter is usually used to tag individual emergency nodes such as
ambulance/SES stations or fire hoses.

David


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Re: [Tagging] access forbidden for tourist busses

2011-04-12 Thread Richard Welty

On 4/12/11 7:59 PM, David Murn wrote:

On Tue, 2011-04-12 at 12:01 +0200, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote:

2011/4/12 John Smithdeltafoxtrot...@gmail.com:


My first idea was tourist_bus=no

Why not use access:*=* ?


Usually we tag foot=no instead of access:foot=no, and I don't see why
I should change this standard here.

To be fair, using that schema, we also tag ski, horse, vehicle,
bicycle, motorcycle, moped, motorcar, goods, hgv, psv, bus, taxi
snowmobile, emergency, hazmat, etc.  Surely it makes sense to have a
standard 'access' class key, rather than having 30 different keys?

there are tradeoffs.

my only complaint about the goods=no model is that there is no
capacity to set up different restrictions (days_on/days_off,
hours_on/hours_off)

but that could be easily fixed by something like

goods:hours_on=
goods:hours_off=

richard


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