Re: [Tagging] Sports_centre, gym, dojo

2012-02-11 Thread Zsolt Bertalan
Hi,

I try to find a tag for a gymnasium (sports hall) in a school, for a
fitness centre in a shopping centre and other sports facilities, but I
realised there are no tags the community agreed on except for
leisure=sports_centre.
This is a complicated issue because of overlapping concepts, our
multicultural environment and different needs. For example I just realised
that sports hall probably wouldn't even recognised by native english
speakers.
I think we should have a sport facilities page in the wiki where we can
list and define all the facilities and their required property tags in the
first place. From there we could start off the different feature proposals,
but (mostly) we cannot discuss them separately as they are connected on so
many levels.

Am I on the right track here?

OR...

we could use the de facto standards the community use (and possibly
document them in the wiki).
Namely:
- I wouldn't use leisure=gym as it is confusing.
- I would tag a gymnasium(sports hall) in a school as leisure=gymnasium
- Also, a separate, bigger sports hall gymnasium with spectator's stand as
leisure=gymnasium. Or leisure=arena?
- An outdoor gym as leisure=outdoor_gym
- A fitness studio as leisure=fitness_studio and have tags as solarium=yes,
sauna=yes, massage=no
- etc

Well, these are my preferences, not definitely what the community use
mostly. So, goto 1? :)

Anyway, I would ditch leisure tag and change all tags to amenity as it
always confuses me, but probably there are higher reasons for its
existence, so don't take this seriously.

regards
herrbert74
Zsolt Bertalan

On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 7:33 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.comwrote:

 On 4/10/2011 1:09 PM, Alan Mintz wrote:

 PPS--In the US, gymnasium is definitely not limited to places where
 people do gymnastics, as mike said it's a large indoor room for a
 variety of sports--like basketball and volleyball--and also sometimes
 events like assemblies or dances.


 ... at a school. The long form of the word would normally cause one to
 think about such a multi-purpose building at a high school or elementary
 school. Colleges and universities generally have separate facilities for
 some of those things and name them more specifically. I never hear
 someone refer to one of the commercial fitness centers as a gymnasium.


 Here the county parks department operates recreation centers/gyms:
 http://www.**orlandomagicocflgyms.net/http://www.orlandomagicocflgyms.net/(the
  Magic paid for these gyms as part of the deal to get a new arena)


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Re: [Tagging] Sports_centre, gym, dojo

2012-02-11 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/2/11 Zsolt Bertalan herrber...@gmail.com:
 Namely:
 - I wouldn't use leisure=gym as it is confusing.


+1


 - I would tag a gymnasium(sports hall) in a school as leisure=gymnasium


+1


 - Also, a separate, bigger sports hall gymnasium with spectator's stand as
 leisure=gymnasium. Or leisure=arena?


not sure.


 - An outdoor gym as leisure=outdoor_gym


what is the difference to a pitch?


 - A fitness studio as leisure=fitness_studio and have tags as solarium=yes,
 sauna=yes, massage=no


isn't that a leisure=gym ?
btw.: leisure=gym is only used 63 times
http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=leisure%3Dgym
amenity=gym 638 times http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=amenity%3Dgym
(I'd prefer leisure for consistency)


cheers,
Martin

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Re: [Tagging] Sports_centre, gym, dojo

2012-02-11 Thread Komяpa
I would recommend not to use the word 'gymnasium, because it is
easily confused (and even recognised by google translate) as high
school in russian language.
We already have a lot of pitches mapped as stadium because a pitch
near the school is called stadium in ex-ussr :3

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Re: [Tagging] Sports_centre, gym, dojo

2012-02-11 Thread Steve Doerr

On 11/02/2012 12:52, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:


- I would tag a gymnasium(sports hall) in a school as leisure=gymnasium


My school had a gym(nasium) and a sports hall. The latter was used for 
things like 5-a-side football, basketball, badminton (several courts 
side by side) and had virtually no windows to break. The gym had 
vaulting horses, wall bars, quoits, rubber mats, and one whole wall was 
glazed, so unsuitable for kicking balls around.



 - An outdoor gym as leisure=outdoor_gym




what is the difference to a pitch?


This is an outdoor gym: 
http://www.naturistfoundation.org/images/keep_fit_area.jpg


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Re: [Tagging] Sports_centre, gym, dojo

2012-02-11 Thread John Sturdy
On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Komяpa m...@komzpa.net wrote:
 I would recommend not to use the word 'gymnasium, because it is
 easily confused (and even recognised by google translate) as high
 school in russian language.

Also in Swedish and German, I think.

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