Re: [Tagging] New Proposal

2013-05-01 Thread Dave F.

On 29/04/2013 18:59, News wrote:
I have created a proposal for a new tagging scheme at 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/through_route



From the wiki Example:

If you are heading north on the A56 and want to continue on the A56 
then you need to turn off the main carriageway or you end up on the 
A682. Currently any routing software based on OSM data will not tell you 
to make a left turn


Excuse my ignorance, but if your destination is Haslingden, why can't 
the routing software send you left at that junction? What makes it 
different to any other turning?


Cheers
Dave F.

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Re: [Tagging] New Proposal

2013-05-01 Thread Georg Feddern

Am 01.05.2013 12:53, schrieb Philip Barnes:


The slip roads are straight ahead, whilst the through route curves to 
the right. The tag is need to tell the router that straight ahead is 
not stay on the same road.


Hope that explains it.



uhm, had you ever considered to tag both following ways as *_link?

In my opinion
- the A56 is a trunk_link, because you have to leave the previous lanes.
- the A682 is a primary_link, because you leave the A56.

In _both_ cases you need a hint from the router to be warned (like keep 
left or keep right).

And AFAIK this would be already supported by routers.

Just my 2 cents.
Georg

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Re: [Tagging] New Proposal

2013-05-01 Thread Philip Barnes
On Wed, 2013-05-01 at 18:20 +0200, Georg Feddern wrote:
 Am 01.05.2013 12:53, schrieb Philip Barnes:
 
  The slip roads are straight ahead, whilst the through route curves
  to the right. The tag is need to tell the router that straight ahead
  is not stay on the same road.
  
  Hope that explains it. 
  
  
  
 
 uhm, had you ever considered to tag both following ways as *_link?
 
 In my opinion
 - the A56 is a trunk_link, because you have to leave the previous
 lanes.
 - the A682 is a primary_link, because you leave the A56.
 
 In _both_ cases you need a hint from the router to be warned (like
 keep left or keep right).
 And AFAIK this would be already supported by routers.
 
 Just my 2 cents.

That is just one example, this problem does not only exist with grade
separate roads. Take this example, http://osrm.at/36D

To stay on the A511 no instruction to turn is given, therefore it is
easy to continue straight ahead. Here it is on streetview
http://goo.gl/maps/8csRf (can you imagine a world without streetview?
wish we could do an opensource version).

There are lots of cases where it would be useful to give a mapper the
means to improve routing by a simple relation.

Phil (trigpoint)



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Re: [Tagging] New Proposal

2013-05-01 Thread Kytömaa Lauri
this example, http://osrm.at/36D
To stay on the A511 no instruction to turn is given, 

That just looks like a bug in the osrm.

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[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -

2013-05-01 Thread wiki_openstreetmap_org . 5 . kuru
We already have that question on 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/tree_shrine:
My answer was: I would say for the same reason why 
historic=wayside_cross is not a combination of historic=wayside_shrine 
and landmark=cross (or man_made=cross) since they can look very similar 
as well [...] I decided to go with a new attribute, because in my 
country a wayside shrine is something masoned (~98% of the time), while 
a tree shrine is an image hanging on or build into a tree


If you don't mind please come over to 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/tree_shrine 
and tell me what you think (It's easier for me to do everything with the 
wiki account)




Why not use the existing historical=shrine? Seems like the only 
distinction is that one is on a tree and may only last a few years.


In the photo example you provide, a picture nailed to a tree, seems 
rather temporary.


Could you provide more of a reason why we need another tag for shrine? 
Explain how tree shrines differ from other shrines and why they should 
be separated out.


Cheers,
Clifford


On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 11:49 AM:

An information for the new proposal tree shrine. Please give me
your thoughts on that!

Link: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/tree_shrin




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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - historic=marker

2013-05-01 Thread Dudley Ibbett
In the UK many of these would come under the heading of blue plaques.  If you 
follow wikipedia through on this topic it talks about historical marker in 
the first sentence so people wishing to map these features may well search for 
this on the OSM wiki.  historic=marker would there for seem to be a reasonable 
tag in this context. 

Dudley

 Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 20:38:26 -0700
 From: ericp...@ca.rr.com
 To: tagging@openstreetmap.org
 Subject: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - historic=marker
 
 Perhaps tagging this as tourism=historicmarker would be a better 
 option.  Thoughts?
 
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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - historic=marker

2013-05-01 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
I would use tourism=information, information=board, board_type=historic (or
sth else more specific) for the examples on the wikipage:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/historic_marker

cheers,
Martin


2013/5/1 Dudley Ibbett dudleyibb...@hotmail.com

 In the UK many of these would come under the heading of blue plaques.
 If you follow wikipedia through on this topic it talks about historical
 marker in the first sentence so people wishing to map these features may
 well search for this on the OSM wiki.  historic=marker would there for seem
 to be a reasonable tag in this context.

 Dudley

  Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 20:38:26 -0700
  From: ericp...@ca.rr.com
  To: tagging@openstreetmap.org
  Subject: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - historic=marker

 
  Perhaps tagging this as tourism=historicmarker would be a better
  option. Thoughts?
 
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