[Tagging] How to tag apartments in a building that is multiuse

2013-06-22 Thread Clifford Snow
Like many large cities, we have apartments that are on the upper stories of
multi-use buildings. The lower level(s) usually contain shops and business
services.

My thoughts are 1) tag the building as an apartment building, and just add
the businesses and 2) add a node as an apartment, but I'm not sure how to
tag it in that case.

Any guidance would be appreciated.

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Clifford

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[Tagging] How should I create a proposal to alter (not create a new) tag?

2013-06-22 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
The proposal/voting instructions at:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Creating_a_proposal Are mostly about
inventing new tags.

What's the procedure for, and how can we document, a voting proposal for
reorganizing things instead?

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I my case I'd like to deprecate:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:pitlatrine
And substantially revise:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dtoilets
Incorporating pitlatrine, then retag all pitlatrine=yes to the new scheme.
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Re: [Tagging] How to tag apartments in a building that is multiuse

2013-06-22 Thread Elliott Plack
This is a tough one. Maybe use the height attribute? I'd tag the bldg with its 
predominant use though. 
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On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 5:32 PM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us
wrote:

 Like many large cities, we have apartments that are on the upper stories of
 multi-use buildings. The lower level(s) usually contain shops and business
 services.
 My thoughts are 1) tag the building as an apartment building, and just add
 the businesses and 2) add a node as an apartment, but I'm not sure how to
 tag it in that case.
 Any guidance would be appreciated.
 -- 
 Clifford
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Re: [Tagging] How to tag apartments in a building that is multiuse

2013-06-22 Thread Serge Wroclawski
On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 5:31 PM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us wrote:
 Like many large cities, we have apartments that are on the upper stories of
 multi-use buildings. The lower level(s) usually contain shops and business
 services.

This is nearly every single building in New York City, so I'm quite
familiar. This is a photo of the view from my apartment of buildings
build similarly to mine:

http://www.emacsen.net/view.jpg

The buildings there are wonderful illustrations of the complexity I
see here. On the ground (and basement) floor there are stores. The far
storefront is a bank, the middle is a  bakery, and the one closest (on
the far building) is a multi-story pharmacy.

Then you have some second story occupants- there's a school in one of
the buildings, for example.

Then the center (the tall part) are apartments, with the entrance in
the center. And there's a rooftop terrace of the third floor,
accessible by the apartment building. There really is no good OSM
representation of this kind of building.

 My thoughts are 1) tag the building as an apartment building, and just add
 the businesses and 2) add a node as an apartment, but I'm not sure how to
 tag it in that case.

I've struggled with this myself. Ultimately I think it depends on the
main use of the building. But in a building where it's part retail,
part school, part apartment- I think it's unclear. Even in buildings
where it's 4 stories of apartment, and one story of retail, I'd say
that it's unclear- so my advice is to simply tag the building as
building=yes, and then place POI nodes in the building.

Other OSM editors in NYC seem to be doing the same, since single use
buildings are so rare here.

As for how to tag an apartment, this is something I've struggled with
myself. Ultimately I added an address with a name (not housename).

Longer term, I think there are two easy solutions (and they're not exclusive):

1. We should have a POI apartments- that indicates apartment.

2. We could tag the building multiuse and find the term for retail
on bottom, apartments on top, so a building would be tagged:

building=foo   - where foo is the term we come up with for that feature.

- Serge

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