Re: [Tagging] Synonymous values in the shop key
On 2014-08-01 at 00:05:38 +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: how do you tag an italian pasticceria? (of the kind that also serves coffee and read-to-eat pastry, not the laboratori di pasticceria where you buy things to bring home / elsewhere. I don't recall, haven't seen many of them, I guess amenity=cafe would be it, or sometimes they're a bar as well? I don't think they sell alcoiholic drinks, so yes, amenity=cafe sounds more appropriate, but then aren't gelaterie close to this concept (except with gelato instead of pastry) -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Multistory medical office building
If the building carries a common name for all the offices I would tag it with amenity=clinic. Otherwise each office with amenity=doctors. You can dig the wiki for indoor mapping advice, level on which the office is is perhaps level=# (can't remember w/out verifying). Cheers, -Jaakko On Jul 31, 2014 4:50 PM, Hans De Kryger hans.dekryge...@gmail.com wrote: Yes it's separate. It's across the street from a small hospital. On Jul 31, 2014 3:45 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Is this a building completely separate from a hospital? I encounter these buildings as part of a hospital complex and so include them in an area tagged with amenity=hospital. On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 9:54 AM, Hans De Kryger hans.dekryge...@gmail.com wrote: Wondering how to tag a 2 story medical office building. It has many doctors offices. To many to place poi's one upon another on the building. In need of help? *Regards,* *Hans* *http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TheDutchMan13 http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TheDutchMan13 * ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse
On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Jesse B. Crawford je...@jbcrawford.us wrote: As a perhaps helpful example, near my old home in Portland, OR, USA there was a retreat facility operated by the catholic diocese. It featured extensive grounds that you might call a park, except that they were fenced and intended for religious or reflective use, with shrines and such placed throughout. I think that landuse=religous would be appropriate for this. __John ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse
On 31.07.2014 17:17, Jesse B. Crawford wrote: As a perhaps helpful example, near my old home in Portland, OR, USA there was a retreat facility operated by the catholic diocese. It featured extensive grounds that you might call a park, except that they were fenced and intended for religious or reflective use, with shrines and such placed throughout. This is visible in iD at https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?relation=186579#map=18/45.49915/-122.61703, and you will see that it is currently not marked with any polygon (although there is a point for the church and school with the same operator). I think there should be a polygon for this site, but a 'park' tagging is not really appropriate since it is not open to the public and not intended for many of the uses of a park anyway (e.g. you wouldn't run your dog there). But I'm not sure how it being out of public access changes the situation. There are many private parks, e.g. around castles or mansions owned by rich people such as popstar Madonna. I would say that a park is just a recreation ground with a mosaic of trees, footways, and lawns. Whether it is public or not, we can specify with access=* tags. I also know of some public parks where it is forbidden to unleash dogs, because they are not wanted to shit in the lawns and flower-beds. Reflective use is not limited to relogious thoughts. Some people reflect on their jobs, their families, their hobbies etc. or they compose poetry or music. In your example, the whole area is inside and certainly part of a residential area, although the school is not primarily used for living. But it is not primarily used for religion either. The school actually has nothing to do with religion, except that it is owned by a diocese. Around 5% of Austrian forests are owned by the catholic church. Does that make a religious use? The buildings in the middle and in the northeastern corner of the area look residential on the arial image. There's a park in the northern half of the area. I can imagine that there are plenty of shrines, chapels and alike in the park. But after all, it's a park. These kind of parks exist here in Austria too, e.g. adjacent to monasteries. These parks are somewhat dark and spooky due to the big old trees which have grown over centuries. In my home district, there is a facility similar to yours, also containing a church and a school: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/78589643 -- Friedrich K. Volkmann http://www.volki.at/ Adr.: Davidgasse 76-80/14/10, 1100 Wien, Austria ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse?
On 31.07.2014 11:54, Marc Gemis wrote: Didn't JOSM include landuse=religion in the latest version ? An editor bug sounds like a good explanation for the occurencies of that erroneous tag in the database. -- Friedrich K. Volkmann http://www.volki.at/ Adr.: Davidgasse 76-80/14/10, 1100 Wien, Austria ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse?
2014-08-01 12:36 GMT+02:00 Friedrich Volkmann b...@volki.at: On 31.07.2014 11:54, Marc Gemis wrote: Didn't JOSM include landuse=religion in the latest version ? An editor bug sounds like a good explanation for the occurencies of that erroneous tag in the database. a) It is a really recent change b) You may dislike this feature but it is not a bug. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] convert imported natural=rock areas to bare_rock
On 12.07.2014 09:59, Christoph Hormann wrote: Based on this it would probably not be a good idea to mechanically re-tag these to natural=bare_rock but this is something that should be discussed at the appropriate place (i.e. in imports). In my opinion these areas would need manual reviewing and fixing before any meaningful tags can be applied. In many cases it might be easier to remap the area from scratch. This is really something that cannot be done immediately. So I gave up the plan for a straighforward data cleanup and essentially excluded it from my proposal. If there are no objections, I'll proceed to voting in a week or so. Here's the link again: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/natural%3Drock_cleanup -- Friedrich K. Volkmann http://www.volki.at/ Adr.: Davidgasse 76-80/14/10, 1100 Wien, Austria ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse?
On 01.08.2014 14:31, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: 2014-08-01 12:36 GMT+02:00 Friedrich Volkmann b...@volki.at mailto:b...@volki.at: On 31.07.2014 11 tel:31.07.2014%2011:54, Marc Gemis wrote: Didn't JOSM include landuse=religion in the latest version ? An editor bug sounds like a good explanation for the occurencies of that erroneous tag in the database. a) It is a really recent change b) You may dislike this feature but it is not a bug. It is a bug because that tag is not approved. An editor should allow *manual* input of non-standard tags, but any hardcoded inclusion in select lists or whatever is an evil propagation by which editor developers bypass the proper proposal process, bullying the community, disrespecting their democratic rights. -- Friedrich K. Volkmann http://www.volki.at/ Adr.: Davidgasse 76-80/14/10, 1100 Wien, Austria ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging