Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - Voting - Water tap
Hi Kotya, Thank you for this proposal and for the work around to complete it. In my opinion, and I'm sorry for rough words, it's a bit useless because of lack of consistency with many other tags. Such water taps may be part of larger networks with many kind of features. Building a proposal for each particular feature will result in many different keys (man_made, natural, water, drinking_water) where one or two may do the trick. Some of these keys (like man_made) are used just because we don't have any other dedicated key. The reflection should be done globally to get a consistent tagging scheme. I know any network like water networks are difficult to understand since most of them are hidden underground but we can start with any visible stuff everyone can see. I vote yes but this will automatically need a refinement. All the best. *François Lacombe* fl dot infosreseaux At gmail dot com www.infos-reseaux.com @InfosReseaux http://www.twitter.com/InfosReseaux 2015-01-11 11:58 GMT+01:00 Kotya Karapetyan kotya.li...@gmail.com: Dear all, This is a kind reminder that the voting is ongoing at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/water_tap#Voting Cheers, Kotya ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
[Tagging] kind of a shop=ticket
Hi, I wonder how to map the kind of a ticket shop. It would be practical to see ticket shops for concerts on a culture map and such shops for aerialway on a skiing map. for now I've 2 ideas tickets:ski=yes/no tickets:concert=yes/no tickets:public_transport=yes/no ... or ticket=ski ticket=concert ticket=public_transport ticket=... tagwatch lists 49 entries of ticket=* 48 entries of tickets=* 15 entries of tickets:public_transport=* 16 entries of tickets:bus=* 10 entries of tickets:subway=* this wiki page [1] recommends to use tickets:*=* What should I document in the wiki? ___ Karsten [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/RU:Tag:shop=ticket ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] kind of a shop=ticket
This is very related to amenity=vending_machine (taginfo = 54 000) with its associated key: vending=* (taginfo = 50 000) http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/vending#values Maybe we could come up with something that unite the used keys. On 12 January 2015 at 09:55, k4r573n k4r5...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, I wonder how to map the kind of a ticket shop. It would be practical to see ticket shops for concerts on a culture map and such shops for aerialway on a skiing map. for now I've 2 ideas tickets:ski=yes/no tickets:concert=yes/no tickets:public_transport=yes/no ... or ticket=ski ticket=concert ticket=public_transport ticket=... tagwatch lists 49 entries of ticket=* 48 entries of tickets=* 15 entries of tickets:public_transport=* 16 entries of tickets:bus=* 10 entries of tickets:subway=* this wiki page [1] recommends to use tickets:*=* What should I document in the wiki? ___ Karsten [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/RU:Tag:shop=ticket ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC: Reverse Vending Machine
On 12.01.2015 05:45, Paul Johnson wrote: How is this not a recycling center? I agree, perhaps the refund namespace should be a thing, but I don't think anybody, in practice, gives two shakes whether some teenager in the back of Fred Meyer is counting cans out of a cart or if they're dumping them into a CanStar bin, unless they buy a lot of off-brand products that are chain-specific (in which, you either would rather have someone just count cans instead of checking to actually see if that chain sold 'em or not, otherwise you're having to go find a /different/ chain's CanStar thingie to try again next time you take out a load of recycling, repeat ad nauseum, if your local bottle bill works the same way as Oregon's). Though that might also need supplemental tagging for brands accepted... Well, it is sort of a recycling center, after all those items end up in recycling. On the other hand there are recycling centers which do not offer refund. I'm not really sure how to solve that particular problem with shops that only accept certain brands. If your country does not have a legal basis for a refund system, which is at least controlled on a state level, this seems a lot of work for little benefit. However, in several European countries there are country-wide laws in place which (in theory) guarantee you that every refund place accepts all refundable items. Refundable items are marked with a small icon and there are not that many exceptions, so most bottles and cans are refundable, and accepted by those machines. Usually markets are not allowed to decline giving you refund for bottles marked with the symbol, but I am aware of at least one exception in Germany and Finland, where some markets at least try not to accept one particular item from a discount market called Lidl (usually you have to ask a person and then they will accept it, but they refuse to program the machine to accept those bottles). There is even a certain culture around this whole refund system, where some people collect bottles that are lying around and bring them to these machines to make some extra money. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] kind of a shop=ticket
sure the problem with vending_machines exists as well amenity=vending_machine | vending=tickets | Taginfo=101 + maybe a tag for more details or vending=public_transport_tickets (taginfo=6 705) vending=parking_tickets;public_transport_tickets (taginfo=138) vending=train_tickets (taginfo=12) I would prefer the first variant - it's more structured but unluckily the second is already common. On 12.01.2015 10:48, althio althio wrote: This is very related to amenity=vending_machine (taginfo = 54 000) with its associated key: vending=* (taginfo = 50 000) http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/vending#values Maybe we could come up with something that unite the used keys. On 12 January 2015 at 09:55, k4r573n k4r5...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, I wonder how to map the kind of a ticket shop. It would be practical to see ticket shops for concerts on a culture map and such shops for aerialway on a skiing map. for now I've 2 ideas tickets:ski=yes/no tickets:concert=yes/no tickets:public_transport=yes/no ... or ticket=ski ticket=concert ticket=public_transport ticket=... tagwatch lists 49 entries of ticket=* 48 entries of tickets=* 15 entries of tickets:public_transport=* 16 entries of tickets:bus=* 10 entries of tickets:subway=* this wiki page [1] recommends to use tickets:*=* What should I document in the wiki? ___ Karsten [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/RU:Tag:shop=ticket ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] religion=multi* ?
John Willis jo...@mac.com wrote: multi fits the sports tagging scheme well, and I think it is best for the religion tag too. Allis not good, as most sports places don have a clay sumo ring or a sandy pit for beach volleyball set up, so all would be wrong. @John I guess this is a reply to my idea of separate tagging: A. non-denominational places (Airport chapels ...) religion=all (OR religion=nondenominational) B. places shared between faiths (but specific faiths, not all faiths) religion=multi + religion:religion1=yes + religion:religion2=yes (OR religion=religion1;religion2 but you are into semi-colon value separator) My idea was to answer to SomeoneElse in https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2015-January/020865.html I don't propose to discard multi for all. Instead I consider if there is value to use both, religion=all in some cases and religion=multi in other cases. Allis not good, [...] Similarly, animal sacrifice and practicing voodoo at the airport's prayer room might get you arrested. Oh my. It does not mean voodoo practionners are not allowed into the prayer room as long as they respect country and airport laws and regulations. This is not a question of restricted access or restricted faith/religion but of adaquate behaviour. I have never seen a sign 'no voodoo' on the prayer room of any airport. If this prayer room with this sign does exist, then it could be defined as multi. Or all + religion:voodoo=no. [[[ [heavy sarcasm] Did you know that every religion has at least one practice not suitable for a prayer room, name it: flogging (self-inflicted flagellation), stoning (lapidation), circumcision, ... Should we ban every religion from prayer rooms? ]]] I think the spirit of these prayer rooms is to welcome anyone, from all faiths. From the website of airports: multi-faith prayer rooms in each terminal at Heathrow. (against voodoo?) ;-) a prayer room for all faiths and denominations at Stansted. We welcome people of all faiths to join us in our chapel and prayer rooms at Gatwick. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] religion=multi* ?
Jgpacker asks on the PoW talk page: Are [Airports prayer rooms] really tagged with amenity=place_of_worship? I would say it's quite a different place from a normal religious place, and should get another tag. I think they are definitively for worshiping and prayers. amenity=place_of_worship is pretty clear for me. Being different from the regular religious place, not consecrated, no significant architecture, they are not building=church/mosque/temple/*. Indoor mapping might tell you room=chapel or room=prayer_room instead. Besides amenity=place_of_worship. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - amenity=public_bookcase
Hello, Vote has ended for this proposal. It was unanimously adopted by 21 votes. I created the feature page tonight: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dpublic_bookcase http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity=public_bookcase Thanks to all! Guillaume Le 2014-12-17 à 23:04, Guillaume Pratte guilla...@guillaumepratte.net a écrit : Hello, I would like to propose a feature for public bookcases, also known as Little Free Libraries in the US, and widely popular in Germany: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/public_bookcase http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/public_bookcase Here is the talk page for discussion and comments: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/public_bookcase http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/public_bookcase Thanks, Guillaume Pratte ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] barrier=net ?
On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 9:55 PM, John Willis jo...@mac.com wrote: What's the difference between an alley and a motorway besides width? How it drains, how thick the hard surface is, lane width, paved shoulders, buildings not adjacent to the roadway with doors extending into the road (saw a collision between a building door opening just in time to get slammed shut by a slow moving truck that happened to be going down the alley; person opening the door was OK), no direct access, lack of dumpsters in the travel lanes, through traffic... ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] religion=multi* ?
Jgpacker asks on the PoW talk page: Are [Airports prayer rooms] really tagged with amenity=place_of_worship? I would say it's quite a different place from a normal religious place, and should get another tag. I'd say they are places where people go for worshipping, and for practicability they are provided religion-neutral, thus yes. If you climb a mountain that has a chapel on top, this is also not your normal place, but one during travel. tom ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
