Re: [Tagging] Quonset hut

2017-04-12 Thread John Willis 




Javbw
> On Apr 13, 2017, at 4:47 AM, Rene  wrote:
> 
> descriptions (and pictures) are totally different to what a Quonset hut looks 
> like. Any suggestions?

I would tag them as to what they are being used for. I googled the two terms, 
and some people use them for sheds, garages, homes, etc. if they have no front 
or back sides, use building=roof, otherwise tag current usage. An old shipping 
container might be a shed or a garage or a few together could be a home - we 
wouldn't tag a shed, a garage, and. A home the same merely because it is the 
same materials. There some tag about the construction, materials, shapes, 
historic/previous use, but all of that is secondary to me as to what it is 
doing now. 

I know Martin and others have talked about tagging buildings that have been 
repurposed - but a Quonset hut has always been a multipurpose structure, so 
unless there is some building:design=Quonset scheme, I am not sure you will 
have to define that it is a Quonset hut. 

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Re: [Tagging] Quonset hut

2017-04-12 Thread Michal Fabík 

On 12.4.2017 21:47, Rene wrote:

Hi,

I like to know how to tag a Quonset or Nissen hut in OSM. The
key:building wiki does mention several possibilities like hut, shed or
warehouse but all of these descriptions (and pictures) are totally
different to what a Quonset hut looks like. Any suggestions?


Hi,
how about building=shed + building:material=steel? If you look at what 
Wikipedia says about sheds, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shed, they 
come in various shapes and sizes.


As for the round shape, I guess you could use building:levels=0 + 
roof:levels=1 + roof:shape=round, and roof:direction as appropriate: 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:roof:direction. In this case you 
would probably also want to use roof:material=steel instead of 
building:material=steel. This is just a wild guess though - I'm pretty 
sure the building:levels and roof:levels aren't intended to be used this 
way.


Regards,

--
Michal Fabík

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[Tagging] Quonset hut

2017-04-12 Thread Rene 

Hi,

I like to know how to tag a Quonset or Nissen hut in OSM. The 
key:building wiki does mention several possibilities like hut, shed or 
warehouse but all of these descriptions (and pictures) are totally 
different to what a Quonset hut looks like. Any suggestions?


Best regards,
Rene

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Re: [Tagging] Restaurant that doesn't sell alcohol...

2017-04-12 Thread John Willis 


> On Apr 12, 2017, at 4:33 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer  
> wrote:
> 
> I would mostly not tag these details but wouldn't mind if someone else does.

Same here. But if someone wants to make a tagging system, I'll get be my advice 
and toss them a yes vote if it isn't breaking something - because it obviously 
means something to them if they are making a proposal and asking people for 
feedback. 

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Re: [Tagging] Railway: Preserved or historic or railway:preserved?

2017-04-12 Thread Volker Schmidt 
My error:

usage=tourism seems to be correct

see http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:usage


On 12/04/2017 06:54, Volker Schmidt wrote:
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> Any active passenger railway is, among other usages, for tourism. So
> usage=tourism seems to be redundant.
>
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Re: [Tagging] Railway: Preserved or historic or railway:preserved?

2017-04-12 Thread Dave F 
On the OpenRailwayMap map usage=tourism is listed under Infrastructure 
not Railway lines/routes so seems appropriate for my case.


DaveF

On 12/04/2017 06:54, Volker Schmidt wrote:
Any active passenger railway is, among other usages, for tourism. So 
usage=tourism seems to be redundant.


On 12 Apr 2017 00:15, "Wolfgang Zenker" > wrote:


Hi,

I'm not a railway expert, but like to comment anyway.

* Dave F > [170411 23:41]:
> I've a length of railway track that runs along part of a disused
line.
> It's not connected to the current network & run purely for tourism.

Well, the track IS operated, so the fact that it used to be part of
a larger network is less important than its current condition.
So I would tag the track railway=rail with the usual additional
tags for name, operator, gauge etc.
It is used purely for tourism, so usage=tourism would be added.
Now I would look at the inventory of that line: Do they still use
historic equipment, maybe from the time when this used to be part of a
larger network? If so, historic=railway would be tagged. Are the
tracks
and signaling still preserved from the days of the old network or have
they been renewed with current equipment? If preserved, add
railway:preserved=yes.

Wolfgang
(lyx@osm)

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Re: [Tagging] Railway: Preserved or historic or railway:preserved?

2017-04-12 Thread Warin 

On 12-Apr-17 05:51 PM, Wolfgang Zenker wrote:

* Volker Schmidt  [170412 07:54]:

Any active passenger railway is, among other usages, for tourism. So
usage=tourism seems to be redundant.

I think usage=tourism is used for railways that are used only for
tourism like rail excursions, dinner trains etc.


"Only' is a very hard thing to be certain of.

I think that a softer word can be used to make assessment easier?


usage=tourism is used for railways that are mainly used for tourism ?

Most passenger railways are mainly used for commuters.



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Re: [Tagging] Railway: Preserved or historic or railway:preserved?

2017-04-12 Thread Wolfgang Zenker 
* Volker Schmidt  [170412 07:54]:
> Any active passenger railway is, among other usages, for tourism. So
> usage=tourism seems to be redundant.

I think usage=tourism is used for railways that are used only for
tourism like rail excursions, dinner trains etc.

Wolfgang
(lyx@osm)

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Re: [Tagging] Restaurant that doesn't sell alcohol...

2017-04-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer 


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> On 11. Apr 2017, at 14:49, John Willis  wrote:
> 
> I do _not_ think stating how common classes of things are handled - 
> especially a commonly signed item - is "listing what is sold". We talk about 
> smoking, handicapped access, parking, fast food vs restaurant, takeaway - all 
> kinds of amenities of a restaurant. This is just another 
> amenity/service/restriction of the business.


yes, and there are many more. Beer in bottles, from the tap? Which brands? Is 
the tiramisu "homemade" or from a pastry shop or deep frozen from an industrial 
factory? pasta homemade or not? Is the fish fresh or deep frozen? Which brand 
of coffee? Is there a coffeemachine? Does the restaurant charge a table fee? 
There's a lot of possible detail that might be important or not, I would mostly 
not tag these details but wouldn't mind if someone else does.

cheers,
Martin 
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