Re: [Tagging] Names containing abbreviations that are the official name

2017-07-24 Thread Colin Smale
Unless the word is "St." for Saint in English where there is no evidence
that the full spelling is ever, ever used. 

And including the word "Township" in the name may also be considered
"tagging for the renderer". This place sounds like it is a "township" by
virtue of some act of incorporation and its name is defined as "Mt.
Lebanon" (or "Mount Lebanon"). 

On 2017-07-25 08:18, marc marc wrote:

> yes.
> name = full name without abbreviation
> official_name = like in government use.
> 
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> Le 25. 07. 17 à 03:16, Albert Pundt a écrit : 
> 
>> I know abbreviated names are frowned upon in OSM, but what about places 
>> like towns where the abbreviation is part of the official name? For 
>> example, Mt. Lebanon Township in Allegheny County, PA (near Pittsburgh). 
>> It is officially, in all government documents, named "Mt. Lebanon" 
>> (though the postal service continues to use its original official name 
>> Mount Lebanon), but OSM guidelines would have it mapped as "Mount 
>> Lebanon" as it is currently mapped.
>> 
>> Presumably cases like these still follow the OSM guideline? Perhaps 
>> "official_name=Mt. Lebanon Township" should be used as well?
>> 
>> --Albert
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Re: [Tagging] Names containing abbreviations that are the official name

2017-07-24 Thread marc marc
yes.
name = full name without abbreviation
official_name = like in government use.

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Le 25. 07. 17 à 03:16, Albert Pundt a écrit :
> I know abbreviated names are frowned upon in OSM, but what about places 
> like towns where the abbreviation is part of the official name? For 
> example, Mt. Lebanon Township in Allegheny County, PA (near Pittsburgh). 
> It is officially, in all government documents, named "Mt. Lebanon" 
> (though the postal service continues to use its original official name 
> Mount Lebanon), but OSM guidelines would have it mapped as "Mount 
> Lebanon" as it is currently mapped.
> 
> Presumably cases like these still follow the OSM guideline? Perhaps 
> "official_name=Mt. Lebanon Township" should be used as well?
> 
> --Albert
> 
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[Tagging] Names containing abbreviations that are the official name

2017-07-24 Thread Albert Pundt
I know abbreviated names are frowned upon in OSM, but what about places
like towns where the abbreviation is part of the official name? For
example, Mt. Lebanon Township in Allegheny County, PA (near Pittsburgh). It
is officially, in all government documents, named "Mt. Lebanon" (though the
postal service continues to use its original official name Mount Lebanon),
but OSM guidelines would have it mapped as "Mount Lebanon" as it is
currently mapped.

Presumably cases like these still follow the OSM guideline? Perhaps
"official_name=Mt. Lebanon Township" should be used as well?

--Albert
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Re: [Tagging] amenity spamming?

2017-07-24 Thread wille
I commented in one of his changesets:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/50438835


2017-07-24 15:16 GMT-03:00 SwiftFast :

> EzekielT asked me to post the following in the mailing list:
>
> I've never done intentional vandalism; and all of those edit problems
> were misunderstandings from over a year ago. I'd already explained to
> SomeoneElse from the DWG about those misunderstandings a long time ago;
> and everything was already resolved.
>
> -- EzekielT (talk), Mon Jul 24, 14:10.
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Re: [Tagging] amenity spamming?

2017-07-24 Thread SwiftFast
EzekielT asked me to post the following in the mailing list:

I've never done intentional vandalism; and all of those edit problems
were misunderstandings from over a year ago. I'd already explained to
SomeoneElse from the DWG about those misunderstandings a long time ago;
and everything was already resolved.

-- EzekielT (talk), Mon Jul 24, 14:10.


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Re: [Tagging] amenity spamming?

2017-07-24 Thread SwiftFast
User has replied on their talk page. I get the impression they're
cooperative but don't know the guidelines. Could someone more
experienced with tag creation explain to them what's fine and what's
not?

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User_talk:EzekielT


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Re: [Tagging] amenity spamming?

2017-07-24 Thread SwiftFast
The user seems to have some history with bad edits[1]. Some of the tags
could be helpful. (e.g. public microwaves in campuses), but it appears
this user is not familiar with OSM etiquette and just goes ahead and
edits as he/she sees fit without discussing. There's also a chance of
intentional vandalism, but I'm not sure.

Some of the tags are ridiculous, e.g. flower.

[1]https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/EzekielT


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Re: [Tagging] amenity spamming?

2017-07-24 Thread Richard Welty
On 7/24/17 1:14 PM, Richard Welty wrote:
> On 7/24/17 1:04 PM, Tom Pfeifer wrote:
>>
>> I wonder what to do here. 
> you could contact him directly and ask him what he is trying to do, and
> attempt to gently dissuade him.
>
> if he is not amenable to reason, well, that's why we have the DWG.
following myself up. do NOT get in an edit war. that never turns out well.

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Re: [Tagging] amenity spamming?

2017-07-24 Thread Richard Welty
On 7/24/17 1:04 PM, Tom Pfeifer wrote:
> There is a user creating a large amount of strange wiki pages for
> "amenities" like
> television, microwave, washing machine, stool, seat, plant, fridge,
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dstool
>
> or tiny perishable objects like natural=flower
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural%3Dflower
>
> You find more via the page history -> username -> contribs.
>
> I wonder what to do about it, apparently he even maps some of those:
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4944091271
>
> I wonder what to do here. 
you could contact him directly and ask him what he is trying to do, and
attempt to gently dissuade him.

if he is not amenable to reason, well, that's why we have the DWG.

richard

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Re: [Tagging] amenity spamming?

2017-07-24 Thread marc marc
Talk to this user to explain that it's fun but must be stopped and reverted.
He do it itself... or somebody 'll do it for him and request a lockout.


Le 24. 07. 17 à 19:04, Tom Pfeifer a écrit :
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dstool
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[Tagging] amenity spamming?

2017-07-24 Thread Tom Pfeifer

There is a user creating a large amount of strange wiki pages for "amenities" 
like
television, microwave, washing machine, stool, seat, plant, fridge,

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dstool

or tiny perishable objects like natural=flower
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural%3Dflower

You find more via the page history -> username -> contribs.

I wonder what to do about it, apparently he even maps some of those:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4944091271

I wonder what to do here.

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