Re: [Tagging] URL tracking parameters
Whilst I'm firmly against tracking codes, we could give the benefit of the doubt and assume that they just cut-and-paste the URL and did not intend to place tracking. The best practice notes on https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:website could easily include a note about not inadvertently including cruft like search terms or tracking codes. On Tue, 25 Feb 2020, 06:53 Martin Koppenhoefer, wrote: > > > sent from a phone > > > On 25. Feb 2020, at 04:37, Jonathon Rossi wrote: > > > > Does OSM have a position on these tracking parameters, WT.mc_id, utm_*, > fbclid, etc? I couldn't find anything on the wiki. > > > > I guess this should better be discussed on talk and likely on the OSMF > board, but it doesn’t seem far fetched to assume most mappers are opposing > the use of tracking codes in OpenStreetMap tags. > > Cheers Martin > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Annual Shows
Temporal events really do not belong in OSM. I can see a good argument for Parkruns (the route exists in between runs and is used every week), or for annual shows held on a permanent showground, Christmas markets less so. Delete it. On Tue, 25 Feb 2020, 06:45 Graeme Fitzpatrick, wrote: > > On Tue, 25 Feb 2020 at 13:47, Joseph Eisenberg > wrote: > >> But this event seems to be similar to an American “county fair”, maybe? >> There is entertainment, music, food, expositions of local crafts and >> produce, equestrian events, etc, lasting a week or so? >> > > All that, but "small" town are shows usually only for a weekend, sometimes > only 1 day, sometimes stretched out to a 3-day long weekend. > > Each (most?) Oz state capital city also has an annual "Show" (under a > variety of names) which is the same again on a grand scale, which lasts for > ~10 days > > Thanks > > Graeme > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Annual Shows
generally, I thought that was agreed, we do not map events, but we do map places where events take (regularly) place. Cheers Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] URL tracking parameters
sent from a phone > On 25. Feb 2020, at 04:37, Jonathon Rossi wrote: > > Does OSM have a position on these tracking parameters, WT.mc_id, utm_*, > fbclid, etc? I couldn't find anything on the wiki. I guess this should better be discussed on talk and likely on the OSMF board, but it doesn’t seem far fetched to assume most mappers are opposing the use of tracking codes in OpenStreetMap tags. Cheers Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Annual Shows
On Tue, 25 Feb 2020 at 13:47, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > But this event seems to be similar to an American “county fair”, maybe? > There is entertainment, music, food, expositions of local crafts and > produce, equestrian events, etc, lasting a week or so? > All that, but "small" town are shows usually only for a weekend, sometimes only 1 day, sometimes stretched out to a 3-day long weekend. Each (most?) Oz state capital city also has an annual "Show" (under a variety of names) which is the same again on a grand scale, which lasts for ~10 days Thanks Graeme ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Annual Shows
If it's on the same day every year on a predictable schedule, I guess it could be added, but if not I'd say no OSM isn't the best place for that kind of data. We don't map every single "Olympics" or "World Championship" sporting events. At the same time I've mapped Parkrun's which only popup weekly, but it's on a predictable schedule and is surveyable and it's weekly https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4523100189 On Tue, 25 Feb 2020 at 14:17, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > > A mapper has entered data concerning an annual show. > > There was no main tag to it, so I have re-tagged it as > > Node: Cobargo Show (7107663569) > "name"="Cobargo Show" > "opening_hours"="Annual Show, see website for times." > "tourism"="attraction" > "website"="https://www.cobargoshow.org.au/; > "operator"="Cobargo A. P Society" > > > It is a regular event (except for fires, floods, world wars and droughts > in the past). > > Any thoughts? > > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Annual Shows
On 25/2/20 2:44 pm, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: The tag tourism=attraction is poorly defined, but it is mainly used for permanent features, places that are year-round (or at least summer/winter season) attractions. I think it would be better to use a more specific tag for an annual event which lasts for days or weeks only. If it is an annual musical festival, then it could be tourism=music_festival for example But this event seems to be similar to an American “county fair”, maybe? There is entertainment, music, food, expositions of local crafts and produce, equestrian events, etc, lasting a week or so? Similar to that, yes. They are tourist attractions in the general sense. Humm but tourism=attraction "is not a main tag and should be combined with some feature". There lies a problem, a 'show' is not a physical feature but an event. Attaching it to the recreational ground would give it the physical feature. However there can be more than one event on a physical feature, separating them up would be challenging. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Annual Shows
The tag tourism=attraction is poorly defined, but it is mainly used for permanent features, places that are year-round (or at least summer/winter season) attractions. I think it would be better to use a more specific tag for an annual event which lasts for days or weeks only. If it is an annual musical festival, then it could be tourism=music_festival for example But this event seems to be similar to an American “county fair”, maybe? There is entertainment, music, food, expositions of local crafts and produce, equestrian events, etc, lasting a week or so? Joseph ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
[Tagging] URL tracking parameters
Hi, Ignoring they've just added an incorrect "website:" key when there is already a "website" one, Hilton Hotels appear to be adding URLs with WT.mc_id parameters to all their web site links. Does OSM have a position on these tracking parameters, WT.mc_id, utm_*, fbclid, etc? I couldn't find anything on the wiki. https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/81403812 https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=WT.mc_id#values https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=utm_source#values https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=fbclid#values -- Jono ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
[Tagging] Annual Shows
Hi, A mapper has entered data concerning an annual show. There was no main tag to it, so I have re-tagged it as Node: Cobargo Show (7107663569) "name"="Cobargo Show" "opening_hours"="Annual Show, see website for times." "tourism"="attraction" "website"="https://www.cobargoshow.org.au/; "operator"="Cobargo A. P Society" It is a regular event (except for fires, floods, world wars and droughts in the past). Any thoughts? ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
