Re: [Tagging] Reviving the path discussion - the increasing, importance of trails in OSM

2020-06-07 Thread Jarek Piórkowski
On Sun, 7 Jun 2020 at 19:17, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote:
> As for tagging 'dangerous areas' .. areas that pose danger such as some 
> favelas cannot be tagged in OSM. I see the same logic applied to dangerous 
> areas caused by wildlife.

Big difficulty in defining where to place cut-off for dangerous and
when an area is dangerous... Ultimately most of the world has some
dangerous wildlife. If very unlucky you could be gored by a boar
within city limits of Berlin. Bears are semi-regularly found in some
suburbs of Vancouver. Where would you draw the line?

--Jarek

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Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Should we map things that do not exist?

2020-06-07 Thread Jack Armstrong
>From: Jarek Piórkowski >>Do you also object when the geometry of the railway and the road is a>straight line? Do you think we should keep>https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/676191068 ?>This rail company apparently went out of business 72 years ago? Mapillary images don't seem to show any trace of rail.This should be removed from OSM

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Re: [Tagging] Reviving the path discussion - the increasing, importance of trails in OSM

2020-06-07 Thread Warin

On 31/5/20 9:20 am, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:




Yes, there are 1000 things in the Australian bush that'll kill you 
:-), but none of them will actually eat you! (not even Drop Bears! 
https://australianmuseum.net.au/learn/animals/mammals/drop-bear/ :-)) 
Same applies to (virtually?) all of Western Europe, but how about 
North America, Africa, Asia & so on? Do we have / need a way of 
tagging that bears (or whatever) may be encountered while walking in 
this area?





A dead carcass will be deposed of in the Australian bush by animals, 
birds and/or insects.


So, yes your dead body will be eaten in the Australian bush... in some 
places quite quickly. Usually bones and hair will be left behind some of 
it as scat.



As for tagging 'dangerous areas' .. areas that pose danger such as some 
favelas cannot be tagged in OSM. I see the same logic applied to 
dangerous areas caused by wildlife.


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Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Should we map things that do not exist?

2020-06-07 Thread Alan Mackie
On Sun, 7 Jun 2020 at 22:34, Martin Koppenhoefer 
wrote:

>
> this is about a different topic: projects that have been started but have
> never been completed and the fragments are now either:
> repurposed
> or
> left to decay
> or
> waiting to be completed
>
> I would be quite interested in standardised tagging for roads where
construction started, but never finished and have been (mostly) abandoned
for years (existing as mostly usable tracks).
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Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Should we map things that do not exist?

2020-06-07 Thread Jarek Piórkowski
On Sun, 7 Jun 2020 at 17:36, Martin Koppenhoefer  wrote:
> > On 6. Jun 2020, at 00:04, Volker Schmidt  wrote:
> > I do object strongly to the invitation to remove the 
> > razed/dismantled-railway tag in the case of railway tracks have been 
> > replaced by roads with the same geometry.
>
> +1

Do you also object when the geometry of the railway and the road is a
straight line? Do you think we should keep
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/676191068 ?

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Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Should we map things that do not exist?

2020-06-07 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer


sent from a phone

> On 6. Jun 2020, at 00:04, Volker Schmidt  wrote:
> 
> I do object strongly to the invitation to remove the razed/dismantled-railway 
> tag in the case of railway tracks have been replaced by roads with the same 
> geometry.


+1

Cheers Martin 
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Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Should we map things that do not exist?

2020-06-07 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer


sent from a phone

> On 4. Jun 2020, at 16:56, Cornelis via Tagging  
> wrote:
> 
> Maybe this one even serves as example for an old railway that in fact
> should be mapped to explain these clearly visible features that
> otherwise would lack an explanation?


this is about a different topic: projects that have been started but have never 
been completed and the fragments are now either:
repurposed 
or 
left to decay
or
waiting to be completed

Cheers Martin 



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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - electric_bicycle and speed_pedelec

2020-06-07 Thread Volker Schmidt
On Sun, 7 Jun 2020 at 13:56, Jan Michel  wrote:

> Voting has ended after 14 days. There were 28 votes, 27 'yes' and one
> 'abstain'.
> This means, the two keywords 'electric_bicycle' and 'speed_pedelec' have
> been approved for use and two new vehicle categories have been
> introduced. Let's see how this works out in our daily mapping tasks.
>
> There were some comments raised about the system used in some US states
> - unfortunately this wasn't mentioned during the 7 months of RFC. The
> system forsees three classes, numbered 1 to 3. To cope with this, I
> suggest to amend the 'electric_bicycle' tag with sub-categories like
> 'electric_bicycle:class2". I will leave this to a separate proposal,
> preferably written by someone more familiar with these classes.
>
> Thank you very much for your participation!
> Jan
>
>
> On 23.05.20 16:37, Jan Michel wrote:
> > The proposal for keywords for electric bicycles is now open for voting:
> >
> > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/ElectricBicycles
>
>
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[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - extend telephone covers

2020-06-07 Thread Lukas via Tagging
Dear all,

for refining and more detailing how telephone-covers get tagged, I created a proposal that 

	
		
			
			adds four more values to the key "covered" for detailed mapping of public telephone's covers. I believe that the key covered=* is sufficient for that, added examples and tried to clearly define each new value. Of course, covered=yes can stay as the easy way for covered phones, but when going into detail I propose four new values. The proposal can be found here: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/extend_telephone_covers

			 

			I'm looking forward to your comments on the proposal's discussion page.

			 

			--Lukas
			
		
	



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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - electric_bicycle and speed_pedelec

2020-06-07 Thread Jan Michel
Voting has ended after 14 days. There were 28 votes, 27 'yes' and one 
'abstain'.
This means, the two keywords 'electric_bicycle' and 'speed_pedelec' have 
been approved for use and two new vehicle categories have been 
introduced. Let's see how this works out in our daily mapping tasks.


There were some comments raised about the system used in some US states 
- unfortunately this wasn't mentioned during the 7 months of RFC. The 
system forsees three classes, numbered 1 to 3. To cope with this, I 
suggest to amend the 'electric_bicycle' tag with sub-categories like 
'electric_bicycle:class2". I will leave this to a separate proposal, 
preferably written by someone more familiar with these classes.


Thank you very much for your participation!
Jan


On 23.05.20 16:37, Jan Michel wrote:

The proposal for keywords for electric bicycles is now open for voting:

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/ElectricBicycles




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Re: [Tagging] Adding mapillary tags to every building

2020-06-07 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer


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> On 5. Jun 2020, at 10:14, European Water Project 
>  wrote:
> 
> They also expressed interest in having more Mapillary images linked to OSM 
> objects.


from the OpenStreetMap point of view it seems preferable to have the images we 
link to available openly. If mapillary doesn’t allow for downloading the images 
(only thumbnails/previews) we should not link to it.

Cheers Martin 
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