Re: [Tagging] Perimeter of a pitch
> As a mapper I try to map the 'marked area', the marked lines used to > create the court/pitch. This makes somewhat easier work for me and very > objective. I, on the other hand, find it easier and also more logical to map the whole area that has the same surface. On Mon, 22 May 2023 at 10:15, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > As a mapper I try to map the 'marked area', the marked lines used to > create the court/pitch. This makes somewhat easier work for me and very > objective. > > It also make it easy to map an area that has a tennis court, a > basketball court and a netball court all co-located. > > The rendering of 3 rectangles can be had once zoomed in. Sometimes the > courts are all in the same direction, sometimes a court can be at 90 > degrees to the others. > > I would not attempt to map that as 'the playing area'. Some of them have > a common fence as a barrier to balls going 'out of bounds' into traffic > or getting lost in the bush. > > > If you map "the playing area' .. how far do you go? > > A cricket ball, golf ball or a football can travel a long way outside > the marked area.. > > I'd think that 'the playing area' could be very subjective. > > > On 22/5/23 06:08, Raphael wrote: > > Hello everyone > > > > Does the area outside the sidelines of a pitch up a board, a fence, a > > change in surface or similar belong to a pitch (sports field) or not? > > I'm asking because there's [some disagreement][^1] about how to map > > `leisure=pitch`: [like this][^2] or [like this][^3]? > > > > Unfortunately, Wikipedia is unclear: in the article on [out of > > bounds][^4] it says that 'the sidelines are the white or colored lines > > which mark the outer boundaries of a sports field'. However, the > > article on [pitch][^5] states that 'the field of play generally > > includes out-of-bounds areas that a player is likely to enter while > > playing a match'. > > > > Best regards > > Raphael > > > > [^1]: https://lists.openstreetmap.ch/pipermail/talk-ch/2023-May/011920.html > > [^2]: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/46.00564/8.96361 > > [^3]: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/46.93564/7.42376 > > [^4]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Out_of_bounds > > [^5]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitch_(sports_field) > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Tag which restaurant or cafe allows bringing your own food or drink?
Hi, in my opinion such tagging would only make sense if these rules were signposted at the restaurant. In the restaurants that I frequent, what you describe would basically mean a prior phone call - hey, we're booking a table for dinner for 6, but one person has to bring their own food, is that ok - and they would then say yes or no and it would totally depend on how busy they are, whether you are a frequent customer, whom you're speaking to and whether they like your voice. Extrapolating from such an instance to some form of general claim that things are always like this at this restaurant would certainly be wrong. And I've never seen a restaurant where they signposted that their policy was that you can bring your own food. Except of course old-style Biergartens in Bavaria. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Picnic_table with barbecue table extension.
barbecue=support ? Mvg Peter Elderson > Op 22 mei 2023 om 20:06 heeft Dave F via Tagging > het volgende geschreven: > > https://snipboard.io/H5FYGT.jpghttps://snipboard.io/H5FYGT.jpgHi > I've a leisure=picnic_table but has an extended table top made of metal to > accommodate disposable barbecues. > > Can anybody recommend a sub-tag that's more descriptive than barbecue=yes? > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure%3Dpicnic_table > > https://snipboard.io/H5FYGT.jpghttps://snipboard.io/H5FYGT.jpg > > Cheers > DaveF > > > > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Picnic_table with barbecue table extension.
sent from a phone > On 22 May 2023, at 20:06, Dave F via Tagging > wrote: > > I've a leisure=picnic_table but has an extended table top made of metal to > accommodate disposable barbecues. > > Can anybody recommend a sub-tag that's more descriptive than barbecue=yes? for the avoidance of doubt you could add barbecue_grill=no as you’ll have to bring your own if I understood it well, or could you just light a fire on the metal plate? https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/barbecue_grill#overview The barbecue tag is not really used a lot and some values indicate a type of barbecue grill https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/barbecue#overview There is more use for “bbq” but it is defined as “a bbq grill is available” (property) https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/bbq#overview I’d use a more specific tag for this feature, or maybe a generic property like fireproof=yes/partial on the table ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Tagging proposal On Wheels app 3 - Parking spaces for
On 22/5/23 22:46, Marc_marc wrote: Le 15.05.23 à 18:47, ro...@onwheelsapp.com a écrit : Hi everyone, So if I understand correct most parking spaces are mapped as polygons? yes https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/amenity=parking_space I don't see the problem to add a width and length tag to a parking_space node, there is no problem except to be aware that this is the least common schema and the one that gives the least information, and that therefore any contributor can convert a width=A length=B into a surface object having this dimension and which will also give a position of this object in relation to the others (does the parking space touch the neighbouring parking_space, does it touch a kerb, etc) because this is more detailed info about the dimensions of a parking space, that is actually measured by people on site with a measure tape. the polygon data is not accurate enough to really use for our app. I don't understand this argument despite the fact that to repeat it : a node width=A length=B is not more precise than a polygon with thoses dimensions The polygon gives the orientation - could be parallel to the road or at some angle. I prefer the polygon, more trouble to map but you can use imagery to get it. Are there other apps that add info about parking places as polygons and extract dimension info from the polygon data? most map style, including osm-carto (the main style on osm.org) ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Picnic_table with barbecue table extension.
On 23/5/23 04:00, Dave F via Tagging wrote: https://snipboard.io/H5FYGT.jpghttps://snipboard.io/H5FYGT.jpgHi I've a leisure=picnic_table but has an extended table top made of metal to accommodate disposable barbecues. Can anybody recommend a sub-tag that's more descriptive than barbecue=yes? To me barbecue=yes would imply there is a bbq there not that I would have to bring my own? See https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dbbq https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:bbq And - more relevant - from the above page "bring_own_bbq=yes – tag proposed[1] and considered as a good idea[2] for places where one is allowed to bring barbecue, but there is no grill or firepit provided on site. As of 2020, there are >10 instances of bbq=bring_your_own [3], compared to 1-digit of bring_own_bbq=yes [4]." https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure%3Dpicnic_table https://snipboard.io/H5FYGT.jpghttps://snipboard.io/H5FYGT.jpg Cheers DaveF ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Perimeter of a pitch
On 23/5/23 09:36, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Mon, 22 May 2023 at 22:43, Marc_marc wrote: but what's the playing area ? Yep, good question, with no across-the-board answer! As you say, you can play tennis from "outside" the court, but in most ball games, if the ball (& sometimes player) crosses the marked line, that's out! In cricket and soccer the ball and player can be 'outside' the marked line but in the air. Only when the player touches the ground are they 'out'. & then for cricket, the "cricket pitch" itself is a small rectangular strip in the middle of the field, but the game uses the entire area of the field, while the boundaries of the field are an essential feature of the game. Err cricket uses less area than Australian Rules Football and sometimes the two cohabit a facility. So the cricket 'field' will be smaller than that football field. Where cricket and soccer occur together there are sometimes 2 soccer fields with the cricket pitch in between the two soccer fields. The cricket field does no take on the outer boundaries of the 2 soccer fields.. Does the 'playing area' of chess include the table and seats? Then think of water and snow skiing... ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
