Re: [Tagging] maxweight : x tons exept for bus

2024-09-10 Thread Alberto Nogaro via Tagging
>From the position of the sign, I'm not persuaded that it's there because of
the bridge, or just because of the bridge. But that's not the point.

I do reckon that the sign in the linked doesn't look like a maxweightrating
sign, but really like a maxspeed with exceptions. 

Looking at the Quebec example on the wiki for Key:maxweight, I then would be
inclined to vote for:

Maxweight=3.5
maxweight:bus=none

-Original Message-
From: Marc_marc via Tagging  
Sent: martedì 10 settembre 2024 12:29
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Subject: Re: [Tagging] maxweight : x tons exept for bus

Le 09.09.24 à 14:43, Alberto Nogaro via Tagging a écrit :
> have you ever seen a signs which specifies the maximum weight that is 
> permitted on a bridge

yes, it does exist, that's the reason for my message
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/12166259094 the sign
https://www.mapillary.com/app/?focus=photo&pKey=1182163818890382
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/51203984 the bridge



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Re: [Tagging] maxweight : x tons exept for bus

2024-09-10 Thread Alberto Nogaro via Tagging
It would help if Marc_marc could post the image of the traffic sign which
originated the thread (or the image of an equivalent sign) and tell the
country where it is placed. Then a user with local expertise could chime in,
and we could decide if the wiki needs clarification.

 

Where I live, two different kind of “maxweight” signs exist, each one with
its own meaning: either maximum allowed weight on road segment, or maximum
vehicle rated weight. I have seen exceptions only for the latter. Maybe
emergency vehicle might make exceptions to the first, assuming any
responsibility in case of mishap, I’m not sure.

 

From: Phake Nick  
Sent: martedì 10 settembre 2024 11:22
To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools 
Subject: Re: [Tagging] maxweight : x tons exept for bus

 

Is it necessary for the tag "maxweight" to be made more clear or to document
that this is a tag that should be interpreted differently in different
countries?

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Re: [Tagging] maxweight : x tons exept for bus

2024-09-09 Thread Alberto Nogaro via Tagging
And have you ever seen a signs which specifies the maximum weight that is
permitted on a bridge, also allow some class of vehicles to exceed that
weight rating?

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From: Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> 
Sent: lunedì 9 settembre 2024 10:51
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Subject: Re: [Tagging] maxweight : x tons exept for bus

In my country the signs specify the maximum weight that is permitted on the
way (usually a bridge).


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Re: [Tagging] maxweight : x tons exept for bus

2024-09-09 Thread Alberto Nogaro via Tagging
I somehow doubt that the traffic sign specifies the  maximum actual weight,
most likely it sets the maximum permitted weight of the vehicle at full
load, as specified by the manufacturer.

If this is the case, there are examples in the wiki to tell that the limit
applies only to certain classes of vehicles

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:maxweightrating

probably a:

maxweightrating:hgv=x

applies.

Regards,
Aberto

-Original Message-
From: Marc_marc via Tagging  
Sent: domenica 8 settembre 2024 19:42
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Cc: Marc_marc 
Subject: [Tagging] maxweight : x tons exept for bus

Hello,

a hithgway have a traffic sign "maxweight x tons exept for bus"
how to tag it ?


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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - highway=scramble

2022-09-15 Thread Alberto Nogaro via Tagging
Including path sections leading up to the scramble part appears to me as the 
only information which highway=scramble would add to the sections mapped with 
highway=path +  sac_scale = demanding_mountain_hiking or an upper value of 
sac_scale. But it's a kind of information which routers can compute without the 
need to explicitly map it.

Alberto

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Sent: 15 September 2022 00:04
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Subject: Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - highway=scramble

I would probably apply it to the actual scramble sections, though, not 
including path sections leading up to the scramble part. 


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Re: [Tagging] cable:ferry

2020-12-17 Thread Alberto Nogaro via Tagging
Maybe we might use “reaction” as a value for the ferry:cable 
  key for those specific 
types of cable ferries, and keep the value “yes” for a generic/unspecified type 
of cable ferry, and change the wiki definition accordingly.

 

Alberto

 

From: joost schouppe  
Sent: 17 December 2020 09:21
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Subject: [Tagging] cable:ferry

 

Hi,

 

This article https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:route%3Dferry mentions 
ferry:cable=yes as a reaction ferry -  a specific type of cable ferry. While 
the article has a picture of a non-reaction cable ferry, it offers no tagging 
suggestion for that. So I'm guessing that in practice, there is no tag for 
reaction ferry at all, and the wiki definition of ferry:cable should be changed.


-- 

Joost Schouppe

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Re: [Tagging] Hiking logbooks

2019-06-26 Thread Alberto Nogaro via Tagging
Related, but limited to log books placed on summits of peaks, 
summit:register=yes is documented and in use (904 uses on points).

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:summit:register

There are also limited undocumented uses of:

register=yes 3 uses
register_book 1 use

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From: Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> 
Sent: 26 June 2019 10:54
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Subject: [Tagging] Hiking logbooks

Hi,

On some hiking trail there are log books, usually at the start and end and 
possibly other places for walkers to record there intentions and observations.
They can be used when someone is overdue by authorities to establish there 
likely whereabouts.

At the moment I think the closest documented tag is checkpoint:type=notebook.

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:checkpoint

Description; "A paper based medium to sign/note, such as a notebook or guest 
book"
Some 55 uses of this.

There are also some used of 'logbook' - undocumented

amenity=logbook 10 uses
logbook=yes 3 uses
piste:amenity=logbook 4 uses

So..
Should 'logbooks' be tagged under checkpoint:type=notebook or should they have 
yet another tag?
If they are to be included under checkpoint:type=notebook then I'll add some 
words to the wiki to say so.
If it is a case of 'yet another tag' .. what is your recommendation?


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