Re: [Tagging] Last call for comments on Proposed features/childcare2.0
Hi, http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/childcare2.0 The proposal seems intuitive but has lots of disambiguations. What if there is a kindergarten with an after school included? I'd propose amenity=childcare, childcare:kindergarten=yes, childcare:after_school=yes, childcare:after_school:opening_hours=*, etc. I know it's longer, I know it's more difficult to write but editors nowadays should really take care of this and this is the logical way to do it. --andreas.balzer 20:51, 18 June 2013 (GMT+1) Andreas Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 20:08:12 +0200 From: defon...@googlemail.com To: tagging@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Tagging] Last call for comments on Proposed features/childcare2.0 Hi everybody, after more than a month of waiting for comments on the proposed feature i'd like to start the voting. Before doing so i kindly request everybody who wants to get involved to provide their comments on the subject. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/childcare2.0 All the best defonion ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] indoor maps
Hi,first of all: Sry about the bad spelling in my email, my spell checking Software is currently ruining my writing skills and I cannot turn it off. Short about me: I'm a student at TU Munich, Germany and am very interested in indoor mapping as well. I am working with five other students on a renderer, routing engine for .NET including real time Information and will be working on a touch enabled editor for Windows 8 beginning next month. We are quite successfull with it, already get commercial support but don't have any webpage online at the moment. About indoor in General at OSM: It's a very active but somehow fragmented discussion. There are multiple tagging schemes but three Major ones that have to be combined into a single big one. Namely indoorOSM, indoor (by Andreas Hubel) as well as the OSM world 4D schemes. The last Focus more on 3D buildings but pointed out that you cannot split the outside from the inside of a building. It is very important for renderers and Editor developers to be confronted with a somehow stable tagging scheme. I talked to the guy behind the josm kenzi 3d rendering plugin and he basically has the same view on it. About your work: Great. I really like it. However it would be better if you can get your changes of the indoorOsm scheme directly into that scheme and move those Contents around in the wiki. About the Editor itself: Would be nice to Skype about it as I'll start developing one as mentioned and it would be great to join our efforts into a Multi platform suited editor. skype: andreas-balzer Andreas Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 14:12:10 -0700 From: sut...@intransix.com To: tagging@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Tagging] indoor maps I am interested in doing some work for indoor maps in OpenStreetMap. I would like to get some tagging discussion started among the broader OSM community. In addition to a good standard, it must be insured that the new indoor data does not negatively impact renderers and editors. I have started working on an editor geared towards indoor maps, after considering the option of a JOSM plugin versus a new editor. It is still pretty early in development but the editor is reaching the point where I can send it to people to get some input. Currently it connects to the dev OSM server. The following is a general link for indoor mapping in OSM: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Indoor_Mapping This link leads to a page for the indoor editor I have been working on: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Termite I look forward to any discussion and to resolving an indoor mapping standard. Cheers, Dave ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] How to tag the width of a gate
Hi,using barrier=gate on a single node and therefore the width key is the documented approach in the wiki. :-) However as far as I know there is nothing specifying the thickness of the gate. Andreas Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 19:48:43 + From: grahamjones...@gmail.com To: tagging@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Tagging] How to tag the width of a gate The key width can only be applied to a way, not to a node (e.g. a gate). You could make separate nodes for the two gateposts, with a connecting way to represent the gate itself, and apply the width tag to that way. To me the easiest answer is to use barrier=gate, width=xxx. I can not see any reason why you should not use width for a node, if it is the sort of node that has a width, like a gate, doorway etc. Graham. -- Graham Jones Hartlepool, UK. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - /entrance/door - Indoor mapping - Buildings
Hello again,so far the voting on the door proposal for indoor mapping got 7 votes (positive and negative).See http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/entrance/door I would appreciate if more people can vote and comment their ideas on the dicussion page. So far many people commented that they don't like the structure but haven't send in details on why or on what they would change. I'm faily new to openstreetmap and happy about every comment and detail I can get on this. Thanks,Andreas From: em...@andreas-balzer.de To: tagging@openstreetmap.org Subject: Feature Proposal - Voting - /entrance/door Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2011 11:51:21 +0100 Hello, I would like to hand in a request for voting on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/entrance/door. It is about how to tag a door which is especially useful for indoor tagging. Andreas ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - /entrance/door
Hello,I would like to hand in a request for voting on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/entrance/door. It is about how to tag a door which is especially useful for indoor tagging. Andreas ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Wheelchair ramp
I don't know about a specific tag but if the ramp is not only for wheelchair users, but e.g. also to access the location with a bike you could use wheelchair=yes, specify width and incline. However I'd favor a documented approach. Andreas From: m...@rtijn.org Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 15:50:16 -0700 To: tagging@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Tagging] Wheelchair ramp Thanks. Is that documented already? On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 3:41 PM, David Earl da...@frankieandshadow.com wrote: I have been using highway=access_ramp extensively recently (and including incline=up as per steps) following a similar question a couple of months ago. David On Wednesday, November 30, 2011, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote: Hi all, Is there a specific tag for a wheelchair ramp that is not part of a steps feature? I see https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Steps_features#Ramps but that's a tag to be used in conjunction with steps and this is a separate feature. -- martijn van exel geospatial omnivore 1109 1st ave #2 salt lake city, ut 84103 801-550-5815 http://oegeo.wordpress.com ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging -- martijn van exel geospatial omnivore 1109 1st ave #2 salt lake city, ut 84103 801-550-5815 http://oegeo.wordpress.com ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - entrance/door
Hi, Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 14:29:17 +0100 From: dieterdre...@gmail.com 2011/11/17 Andreas Balzer andreas.bal...@live.de: Hello, I've added a proposal on how to tag doors. It would be nice to get your opinions on this. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/entrance/door I like this proposal but would change entrance:door=yes to entrance=yes and barrier=door to stay in line with current tagging. So to change entrance:door:*= to *=, e.g. entrance:door:type=hinged to door:type=hinged? When talking about doors there are also other details that might be remarkable: door position in the opening (inside, outside, center)I don't understand this. Do you mean the direction in which the door opens, e.g. towards the more secure area (from public to private) or against it? Then what do you mean with center? Do OSM areas have unique ids in respect to their surroundings? and opening direction (left or right: when you stand in front of the door from the side to where the door opens, is it attached left or right, have a look here: http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Datei:Aufschlagrichtung.giffiletimestamp=20080904100726 ) cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Proposed features/entrance/indoor-usage
Hello Peter,thank you for your comment.Indeed it seems to be quite difficult to achieve indoor mapping with OSM and JOSM at this moment. However there's currently a great deal of research being invested by universities on this topic. Our university (TU München) had several bachelor theses on the topic and our computer science department got mapped to some degree in multiple layers (see http://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=11.6665525436401minlat=48.2617683410645maxlon=11.6693410873413maxlat=48.2632865905762). Me and three other master students got asked by our university to create a prototype routing application for Windows Phone as part of Imagine Cup. We are currently getting support by Microsoft and several local public transport organizations to connect valuable data into the prototype. I think when it's possible to prove that there is demand - by endusers and companies, more OSM users get interested in mapping buildings in their environment. Having a standard at that point in time will be crucial. There's already a lot going on with staircases, layers and certain elements on these layers. However there is nothing yet on doors and the mentioned feature proposal seems to fit naturally in there. I have been reading into OSM now for two days so I barely scratched the surface but I guess a CS graphics chair could add 3d plugins to JOSM to enable layered mapping. Do you know of anything in that direction? Andreas Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 09:30:38 +0100 From: wendo...@uni-paderborn.de To: tagging@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Proposed features/entrance/indoor-usage Hi Andreas. I am kind of a detail mapper (mapping sidewalks as own ways and so on), but I am not sure about indoor mapping in general. All OSM editor programs I know are not well fitting into the area of editing more than one level/layer: bridges are okay as nodes are not on the same location most often, but more is difficult. If you ever tried to map a stairway from basement to the first floor (or above) of a building, winding around in between, you will probably know what I mean. Mapping rooms is similar: Often Walls are exactly on top of each other (as they carry the building's structure and roof). You see: mapping rooms is not trivial in general, but IMHO the problem is even bigger, if one already mapped the rooms of a building, while another one wants to fix e.g. the shape of the building itself (this may happen often). What to do now with the rooms? Of course that's a problem we always have when editing other's work; but here it's really much data that has to be corrected, and it's difficult to do so. Room entrances of course are only useful in combination with rooms - so that's my answer to your question. BUT: I would appreciate additions to JOSM (and other editors) helping to deal with problems like this: multiple levels, the always discussed problem of parallel osm-ways describing a road and so on. If there would exist software support, I can imagine useful additional mapping, yes. regards Peter Am 17.11.2011 07:13, schrieb Andreas Balzer: Hello, I'm fairly new to openstreetmaps. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/entrance/indoor-usage is kind of a no-brainer. There is a feature regarding entrances to buildings. For me it seems to be suited for indoor mapping to be used for entrances to rooms too. Would be nice to get comments on this. Thanks, Andreas ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - entrance/door
Hello,I've added a proposal on how to tag doors. It would be nice to get your opinions on this.http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/entrance/door Thanks,Andreas ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Proposed features/entrance/indoor-usage
Hello, I'm fairly new to openstreetmaps. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/entrance/indoor-usage is kind of a no-brainer. There is a feature regarding entrances to buildings. For me it seems to be suited for indoor mapping to be used for entrances to rooms too. Would be nice to get comments on this. Thanks, Andreas ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
