Re: [Tagging] Proposal for COVID Vouchers

[Damjan Gerl]

Francesco Ansanelli je 19.5.2020 ob 17:33 napisal:

Hello,

Il giorno mar 19 mag 2020 alle ore 16:57 Martin Koppenhoefer 
mailto:dieterdre...@gmail.com>> ha scritto:


Am Di., 19. Mai 2020 um 14:55 Uhr schrieb Rossella Di Bari
mailto:dbrosse...@gmail.com>>:

Hi! I am Rossella, an italian neo-mapper, nice to meet you :)
In Talk-It [1] we get into a debate on vouchers, provided by
the Government, for the purchase of essential goods, to
support the families in need in COVID time.
The vouchers are similar to SNAP or food stamps, they can also
be used to purchase essential supplies like medicines (not
just for food) and entitle to a certain percentage discount.



right

I am posting here because it came forward the need to tag
supermarkets and pharmacies that accept the COVID vouchers as
a payment method and it's time for a broad debate.
Searching on Taginfo [2], i have found
payment:service_vouchers:covid19=yes used only 5 times and it
seems to be the most suitable tag because these specific vouchers:

  * are a payment method;
  * (in my opinion) can be considered a service_voucher as "a
financial instrument which allows a public authority to
target social services at those it deems in need" [3];



if you read along the wikipedia page you have quoted, it says
about the services "These might include for example home care
, household repairs,
ironing , or bicycle
 hire and repair."

"Food" you buy in a supermarket is not a service, neither
pharmaceuticals are. It would be a service to deliver your
purchase at your home, but the things you buy can not be regarded
a "service", and the payment:service_voucher tag (IMHO) does not
apply to these vouchers you want to map the acceptance of.


I have to partially agree with Martin, even if the "meal vouchers" 
definition is too strict for the case in subject. How about a simple: 
"payment:voucher:covid19=yes"


As I've already noted the tag: payment:service_vouchers:covid19=yes
should be written without the extra "s": 
payment:service_voucher:covid19=yes

and I could live with it, if we fix them all (5).


No problem to fix this 5 tags (I'm the author of this 5 used tags) when 
the tag will be defined.




Are you sure there is a distinct category of objects that accept
"buoni spesa" for COVID, that is not identitcal with the list of
those objects that accept payment with "reddito di cittadinanza"
(more general social care, not related to COVID)? I think I have
read they are the same (but it could eventually depend on the
region). If there are no differences, we could map the acceptance
of food vouchers for COVID the same as we map acceptance of
reddito di cittadinanza (i.e. the latter would imply the former
and would not require explicit mapping).


First of all, I think COVID-19 mapping should be suffixed by 
":covid19" and should never be assumed by default even if similar 
services are given, then please also mind that "reddito di 
cittadinanza" is AFAICT a debit Mastercard:

https://confcommerciogorizia.it/2019/06/14/reddito-di-cittadinanza-2019-in-quali-negozi-si-potra-spendere/

At the bottom of the page you can see how the voucher are (last picture):
http://www.comune.cuneo.it/emergenza-covid-19-a-cuneo/spendiamoci-buono-spesa-alimentare.html

My only concern is that in my opinion, these vouchers cannot be spent 
outside of the municipality that printed it, so I would also encourage 
a tagging scheme like this:


payment:(service_)voucher:covid19=yes
payment:(service_)voucher:issued_by:covid19=Comune di Cuneo


But maybe issued_by can be omitted, because can be deduced by position 
(should be in the same municipality)?

I'm ok with both schemes (with or without service_).

BR,
Damjan




Cheers
Francesco


Cheers
Martin




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[Tagging] Relation - housenumbers / villages without streetnames

[Damjan Gerl]

Hi to all!
I have a question for how to tagging the housenumber-relation of some 
villages (also some big) that don't have street names? How to associate 
the house numbers with village name in relation, something like 
associatedStreet without taking in consideration the street names, 
because there is not street names?
I want also to ask how the street name of such villages may be tagged? I 
see some practise to add the name=name-of-village to this type of 
streets (Or also name= Locality name-of-village). But I think that 
because this type of streets don't have any name, the tag name must be 
leaved empty and not populated with some invented names.


Sorry for my english...
Regards
Damjan G.

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