Re: [Tagging] Adding values healthcare=dispensary and healthcare=community_care?
> > These places have a particular focus on deadly diseases affecting > children, they include prevention, health promotion and curative > activities. Since these don't even have a single nurse as staff, I would > like to propose a separate value such as healthcare=community_care or > community_care_site. Thanks, Claire, for this, it's been a long discussion, In Ghana the above could be the same as to as Community-Based Health Planning and Services (CHPS) compound [1] where there could be a nurse or a volunteer. `amenity=health_post` is the closest I can agree to so far. 1. https://www.ghanahealthservice.org/chps/category.php?chpscid=98 Am Mo., 25. Mai 2020 um 15:29 Uhr schrieb Manda Andriatsiferana < privatemaj...@gmail.com>: > Wait, I was wrong, it should be: > >- health facility has doctor -> amenity=doctors + healthcare=* >- health facility has no doctor but has nurse -> >healthcare=nurse/centre >- health facility has neither doctor nor nurse -> >amenity=health_post + healthcare=community_health_worker > > Depends on a renderer. Such discussions about features in specific >> renderers are offtopic here >> (though "is it possible to render it at all" may be on topic). >> > Alright, let's forget about the renderers. > > Cheers > -- > Dolly Andriatsiferana > > > On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 4:33 PM Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging < > tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > >> >> >> >> May 25, 2020, 14:53 by privatemaj...@gmail.com: >> >> And this leaves no room for amenity=healthcare. Can't we just get a >> rendering for amenity=health_post? >> >> Depends on a renderer. Such discussions about features in specific >> renderers are offtopic here >> (though "is it possible to render it at all" may be on topic). >> ___ >> Tagging mailing list >> Tagging@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >> > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > -- -Enock ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] With leisure=common deprecated, Senegal & Mali need a replacement
This has been a long thread so far. landuse=common, I have used it pretty much in Ghana and West Africa as well when an open space just didn't serve one purpose, neither a pitch nor park but can be used for both. This deprecation needs a second look. Best, Am So., 3. Mai 2020 um 18:55 Uhr schrieb Jean-Marc Liotier : > On 5/3/20 7:36 PM, Marc M. wrote: > > Le 03.05.20 à 18:13, Joseph Eisenberg a écrit : > > it is true that this tag (leisure=common)is ambiguous because it is being > used for totally different purposes in different countries. > > I think this argument is crucial. if more than one meaning exists for a > tag, having a precise meaning for a country is useless, osm is a global > base, it's a bad idea to hope a render style "tag A rendered as meaning1 in > Africa, as meaning2 in Europe, as meaning3 in Asia". > > Then, isn't it nice that leisure=common has been abandoned in it's former > British usage ? As far as I know, that was its only other usage - or is it > also used in other parts of the world ? > > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > -- -Enock ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Specific tag for Satellite Dishes
> However, I don't see much benefit from mapping private household > satellite antennas: the dishes in the linked picture above are only 90 > cm across, and they are on just about every house. > Maybe there are more useful things to map in Ghana before adding these > minor features? I agree with you but in our case for the fact that this a slum. We thought this will serve a purpose. Yes many more useful things will be mapped soon :). Not 90cm across dishes into OSM this time. Thanks for comments. Le lun. 29 juil. 2019 à 10:18, Joseph Eisenberg a écrit : > I agree; I spent a few minutes trying to improve the page a bit. > > However, I don't see much benefit from mapping private household > satellite antennas: the dishes in the linked picture above are only 90 > cm across, and they are on just about every house. > > Maybe there are more useful things to map in Ghana before adding these > minor features? > > On 7/29/19, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > Am Mo., 29. Juli 2019 um 09:36 Uhr schrieb Enock Seth Nyamador < > > enocks...@gmail.com>: > > > >> *This attribute is not suitable for private house antennas.* > >>> > >> Apparently this caveat prevented us from using all above tags since we > >> want to use it in this regard. See screenshot [1] > >> > >> 1. https://imgur.com/tyXnMtJ > >> > >> > > > > > > the man_made=satellite_dish tag is poorly defined anyway, the short > > definition speaks about "ground stations": "A ground station is a > > terrestrial radio station designed for extraplanetary telecommunication > > with spacecraf." > > > > Probably most satellite dishes are set up for communication with > > satellites, generally most of them being only receivers. > > The whole page should likely be rewritten, as it does not focus on the > > feature (satellite dish) but on other features (ground station, radio > > telescope, etc.). It isn't clear why this should not be used for private > > satellite dishes, and there should probably be some discussion on this > list > > and improvement of the wiki page. > > > > Cheers, > > Martin > > > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > -- Best, -Enock ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Specific tag for Satellite Dishes
> > *This attribute is not suitable for private house antennas.* > Apparently this caveat prevented us from using all above tags since we want to use it in this regard. See screenshot [1] 1. https://imgur.com/tyXnMtJ Le lun. 29 juil. 2019 à 06:23, Topographe Fou a écrit : > Look at this recent page: > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dsatellite_dish > > Note that this tag is 'in use' and has few usage. You can make/revive a > proposal in order to approve it (together with > man_made=communication(s)_dish?) > > LeTopographeFou > *De:* enocks...@gmail.com > *Envoyé:* 29 juillet 2019 7:04 AM > *À:* tagging@openstreetmap.org > *Répondre à:* tagging@openstreetmap.org > *Cc:* t...@openstreetmap.org; talk...@openstreetmap.org > *Objet:* [Tagging] Specific tag for Satellite Dishes > > Hello, > > Sorry for cross posting. > > I am looking for specific tags for Satellite Dish [1]. I haven't found > anything near so far. May be am missing something, else it doesn't exist > and might be useful to propose and come handy in some cases. > > Ever mapped something like this or any idea will be great. > > 1. https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q253843 > > -- > Best, > -Enock > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > -- Best, -Enock ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
[Tagging] Specific tag for Satellite Dishes
Hello, Sorry for cross posting. I am looking for specific tags for Satellite Dish [1]. I haven't found anything near so far. May be am missing something, else it doesn't exist and might be useful to propose and come handy in some cases. Ever mapped something like this or any idea will be great. 1. https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q253843 -- Best, -Enock ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] shop=clothes vs shop=fashion
Shop selling only clothes is still shop=clothes even if it is so small that you are unable to enter inside. Shop selling only cars is still shop=car even if it is so small that you are unable to enter inside. Of course that's very valid scenarios. In some funny cases kiosk-type shops (sells drinks, newspapers, magazines, snacks, cigarettes and the like) may be big enough that you can enter (for example at train stations). In this case I will map as shop=convenience instead. On 3/6/19 3:33 PM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: Yes, shop is not becoming shop=kiosk just becomes you are unable to enter inside. Shop selling only clothes is still shop=clothes even if it is so small that you are unable to enter inside. Shop selling only cars is still shop=car even if it is so small that you are unable to enter inside. In some funny cases kiosk-type shops (sells drinks, newspapers, magazines, snacks, cigarettes and the like) may be big enough that you can enter (for example at train stations). Mar 6, 2019, 4:23 PM by o...@westnordost.de: kiosk and convenience is supposed to be the same? I always used it like - convenience: small supermarket that is usually too small to have shopping carts but still also sells things of daily need (shampoo, toilet paper, milk, cornflakes, bread and spread,...). The typical 7-Eleven store (doesn't exist in Germany btw) - kiosk: very small store that usually only sells drinks, newspapers, magazines, snacks, cigarettes and the like. Sometimes even so small that you can't go inside but buy things through the window Tobias Am 6. März 2019 16:06:25 MEZ schrieb Jean-Marc Liotier mailto:j...@liotier.org>>: >On Wed, March 6, 2019 3:58 pm, Enock Seth Nyamador wrote: Jean-Marc I agree with about shop=boutique much used in West Africa. >The reason being that the shops have boutique attached to their names. >Indeed. In Dakar and Bamako, when you need to buy a Fanta, tu vas à la >boutique... So I can't really blame contributors for using the word >that >sound most natural to them. >Depending on how big the shop is, solutions would be shop=kiosk (after >years of pushing we are beginning to see that one adopted) and >shop=convenience (which is not used enough) >___ >Tagging mailing list >Tagging@openstreetmap.org <mailto:Tagging@openstreetmap.org> >https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org <mailto:Tagging@openstreetmap.org> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging -- Best, -Enock ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] shop=clothes vs shop=fashion
Absolutely. shop=kiosk is the best for these shops; which you mostly stand outside to buy goods. shop=convenience if you can enter the shop I tell people now a days. Le mer. 6 mars 2019 à 15:07, Jean-Marc Liotier a écrit : > On Wed, March 6, 2019 3:58 pm, Enock Seth Nyamador wrote: > > Jean-Marc I agree with about shop=boutique much used in West Africa. The > > reason being that the shops have boutique attached to their names. > > Indeed. In Dakar and Bamako, when you need to buy a Fanta, tu vas à la > boutique... So I can't really blame contributors for using the word that > sound most natural to them. > > Depending on how big the shop is, solutions would be shop=kiosk (after > years of pushing we are beginning to see that one adopted) and > shop=convenience (which is not used enough) > > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > -- Best, -Enock ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] shop=clothes vs shop=fashion
Jean-Marc I agree with about shop=boutique much used in West Africa. The reason being that the shops have boutique attached to their names. Best, - Enock Le mer. 6 mars 2019 à 14:51, Jean-Marc Liotier a écrit : > On Wed, March 6, 2019 3:42 pm, dktue wrote: > > > > I currently found out that shops that sell clothes are either tagged with > > shop=clothes or with shop=fashion > > but I can't find out when to use which. > > shop=clothes only sell unfashionable clothes. > > But seriously, shop=clothes is factual whereas shop=fashion is a matter of > appreciation, so I would go with shop=clothes and let subsidiary tags > optionally describe the particular sort of clothes sold. > > And then there is shop=boutique which I hate with a particular passion, > not just because is is as subjective as shop=fashion but also because > "boutique" is French for "small shop" and it is therefore used all over > West Africa to tag all sorts of shops... > > Links: > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dboutique > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dclothes > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dfashion > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
