Re: [Tagging] Proposal to change key:man_made to key:human_made
Love this proposal! On Sun, Oct 18, 2020 at 5:11 PM Rory McCann wrote: > On Thu, 15 Oct 2020, at 2:41 PM, Volker Schmidt wrote: > > And all this effort achieve what? > > The liberation of all people from from gender roles 🙂 > > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > -- *MIKKO L. TAMURA* *Lead Advocate* *Map Beks Initiative* *Externals Head* *Pilipinas Chubs X Chasers* *Volunteer Mapper* *OpenStreetMap Philippines* *Contact Number: +639173290655* ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Tag:amenity=motorcycle_taxi not approved
This seems very logical. This is very evident jn Thailand also. Its like every 2 blocks in Bangkok there is a motorcycle taxi stand. On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 11:26 PM Joseph Eisenberg < joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com> wrote: > You guys, we are not talking about mapping a taxi call centre, where you > use a phone number to order a cab. We are talking about mapping a taxicab > queue or stand: a spot where taxis wait for passengers. > > Of course if you have 8 people in your part, and walk up to a taxicab > stand, they might tell you that you need 2 cars (though in many some > countries they will let you pile in to one car with your luggage strapped > to the roof.. ). But you will be able to get a cab. > > If you arrive at the airport in Bali with your in-laws, and look on > Maps.me for the closest taxi stand and walk over to it, you will be quite > disappointed to find a line of motorcycles, and have to walk back to the > other side of the airport to get a cab at the real taxi stand. > > This is not a problem in your country, because you only have taxicab > stands. It will not affect you personally, unless you travel to Asia or > Africa etc. > > -Joseph Eisenberg > > On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 1:04 AM Marc M. wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> Le 10.05.20 à 01:24, Martin Koppenhoefer a écrit : >> > imagine you are ordering a taxi for yourself and 2 colleagues to the >> > airport and instead of a taxi (cab) they send you 3 taxi moto. Would >> > that be equally ok, wouldn’t it matter, taxi is taxi? >> >> Imagine ordering a taxi and arriving in a 4-seater car when you have >> a family of 8, it's the same problem, isn't it? >> When I order a taxi, they ask me the number of people. >> the guy won't come with a fiat 500 if I say 8 >> >> I don't imagine we're going to create several objects to describe >> that a taxi waiting area has motorcycles, "normal" cars, vehicles >> with a lot of passenger seats and vehicles with a heavy >> luggage capacity. >> on the ground : one traffic sign for for all variants. >> >> Regards, >> Marc >> >> ___ >> Tagging mailing list >> Tagging@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >> > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > -- *MIKKO L. TAMURA* *Administrator* *Map Beks Initiative* *Externals Head* *Pilipinas Chubs X Chasers* *Volunteer Mapper* *OpenStreetMap Philippines* *Contact Number: +639052320416* ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Request for assistance in creating a tag.
I think a department or a small office is a better primary tag for hiv treatment centers/ testing/ dispensary. Usually in our case in the Philippines, a small building has a clinic and in that clinic there is a small office space or room/s for hiv testing and for dispensing. On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 9:16 PM Paul Allen wrote: > On Mon, 13 Apr 2020 at 11:29, Joseph Eisenberg > wrote: > >> >> Right, that doesn't work. If the HIV clinic or department has >> different details, such as a different name, opening_hours, website, >> etc, then it will need to be mapped as a separate feature, such as an >> amenity=clinic node inside of the amenity=hospital area. >> > > Thanks for giving your view of the usage of amenity=clinic (and, by > implication, healthcare=clinic as the wiki states it's an alternative > to amenity=clinic). The wiki pages for healthcare=clinic and > amenity=clinic don't seem to explicitly state that these tags are > appropriate for units/departments/centres of hospitals. > > I agree with your view. The value "clinic" may not have been the best we > could have chosen but there doesn't seem to be any other value to use > for the X-ray department, diabetes centre, renal dialysis unit, etc. of a > hospital. Before the current crisis I was mapping my nearest general > hospital and using amenity=clinic + healthcare=clinic in this way. > > The only reason to think otherwise is that the wiki page on healthcare > lists only two specialities for clinics: abortion and fertility, > indicating that > at least one person considered clinics to be standalone and not normally > part of hospitals. > > So what's the consensus on clinics? If there is a consenus (rather than > the > usual bunfight) I'll amend the wiki pages to make it explicit that clinic > can be used for units/departments/centres in hospitals. > > -- > Paul > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > -- *MIKKO L. TAMURA* *Administrator* *Map Beks Initiative* *Externals Head* *Pilipinas Chubs X Chasers* *Volunteer Mapper* *OpenStreetMap Philippines* *Contact Number: +639052320416* ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Request for assistance in creating a tag.
Thank you for the wonderful insights. Currently, what we are tagging is the hospital. So for example, Manila Hospital (tagged as a hospital) we add the tags like disease:hiv=yes. say that it is a treatment facility and it dispenses hiv medicine. But what i am having difficulty is that hiv facility is treated like a department. You can put in the email address and contact details of the hospital but if I add the contact details of the Hiv facility it then gets mixed with the hospital details. In this case A hospital can have a clinic specifically for HIV, and a clinic can also have a small office for HIV patients (not specifically another clinic). Thanks Joseph and Warin most. of the cases are really similar here. For treatment hubs - yes this is for inpatients similarly for the one you described. This is are mostly hospitals but in some cases clinics. My problem here is that a big hospital has alot of contact details for the hospital so the information and contact details for the hiv treatment facility are mixed. For hiv care - yes it is a bit of all a combination. I cant tagged it as a pharmacy as it only releases specific anti-retroviral drugs. Currently We are using this tagging system as assisted by the local OSM community in the Philippines. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/HIV_Facilities_Tagging_(MapBeks) But I feel the feature gets overshadowed by the hospital/clinic/social facility/office tag. Your thoughts would be very helpful. On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 3:58 PM Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > > Treatment hubs (in patient + dispensaries+ testing): > > Are you sure you mean "inpatient?" An "inpatient" facility, in > American English, is a hospital which has beds where patients are > cared for overnight. > > This would be mapped as amenity=hospital for the main feature, most likely. > > > primary hiv care (dispensaries+testing) > > You don't mention care by a nurse or physician, but I assume this is > an amenity=clinic (with physicians and nurses) which also has an > amenity=pharmacy in the same building. There might also be a > healthcare=laboratory at the location. > > > testing centers/clinics (testing only) > > Is this a doctor's office, or is there just a nurse, or just a > laboratory technician who can draw blood for the test? If there is a > doctor, it might be an amenity=doctors. If there is just a laboratory > for testing, that would be a healthcare=laboratory facility. > > For the speciality, it's possible to use something like > healthcare:speciality=hiv if that's the only thing that the clinic > treats. > > But here in Indonesia and back in the USA most clinics that treat HIV > also offer treatment for other infectious conditions, so a different > specialty like healthcare:speciality=infectious_diseases would usually > be more correct. > > I see that in the Phillipines the tag "disease:hiv=yes" has been used: > https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/disease%3Ahiv#map > > In Indonesia and the USA you can get an HIV test at just about any > healthcare=laboratory and larger clinics and all hospitals. But if you > can only get this done at some specialized places in the Phillipines, > you could consider adding a tag like "hiv_testing=yes/no" for clinics, > doctor's offices, and laboratories. > > Similarly, in the USA it's normal to be able to get hiv medications > from standard pharmacies. But if they are only available from a few > pharmacies in your country, you could add a tag like > "hiv_medication=yes/no" to an "amenity=pharmacy" facility. > > It looks like "medical_service:antiretroviral_therapy=yes" has been > used in combination. That seems overlong and complex, so it would not > have been my first choice: > > https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/medical_service%3Aantiretroviral_therapy > > -- Joseph Eisenberg > > On 4/13/20, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > At present there is the key healtcare. > > > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:healthcare > > > > Some initial thoughts? > > > > healthcare:specialty=HIV_testing > > > > healthcare:specialty=HIV_treatment > > > > HIV dispensary ... would be a pharmacy? > > > > amenity <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:amenity>=pharmacy and > > dispensing <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:dispensing>=HIV > > > > ???Hopefully there will be better ideas. > > > > On 13/4/20 4:32 pm, Mikko Tamura wrote: > >> Good day, fellow OSM tagging experts. I would like to ask assistance > >> in creating a tag for HIV facilities. We have created a tagging system > >> for hiv facilities here in the Phil
[Tagging] Request for assistance in creating a tag.
Good day, fellow OSM tagging experts. I would like to ask assistance in creating a tag for HIV facilities. We have created a tagging system for hiv facilities here in the Philippines but it seems to be too extensive. We would like it to be more simple. I hope you can help me with it. I am reading the wiki page and Im having a challenging time doing it. Some background: We have 3 types of HIV facilities/clinics. Treatment hubs (in patient + dispensaries+ testing), primary hiv care (dispensaries+testing) and testing centers/clinics (testing only). We have started tagging hospitals which have this features and honestly I am guessing this would eventually get mixed up with the other tagging like the contact number of the hospital, etc. Hopefully, we can represent it with a node with basic details specifically for that clinic/department. Hope someone can guide us and thank you in advance. -- *MIKKO L. TAMURA* *Administrator* *Map Beks Initiative* *Externals Head* *Pilipinas Chubs X Chasers* *Volunteer Mapper* *OpenStreetMap Philippines* *Contact Number: +639052320416* ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
