Re: [Tagging] Dispute prevention: meaning of lanes tag
In the UK emergency lanes are called shoulders. Tags for them have been suggested in the past: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Shoulder Nick. On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 10:09 PM, Sander Deryckere sander...@gmail.com wrote: There is a discussion about PSV lanes, but what about emergency lanes. Nobody is allowed to use it, with the exception of people who have to stop for a car problem, or by emergency vehicles when there is a traffic jam on the other lanes (at least, that's the case in Belgium). This is not one place where you can drive to and park your car to change a wheel or so, it's a lane along a huge part of the way. I think this should be discussed together with the other types of lanes, but I won't join further discussion here. Cheers, Sander ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] power=tower enhancement
The risers I've seen can only be properly identified by close up inspection, it's generally just a metal half-tube nailed to one side of the pole through which the cable then passes. Identification of which poles have risers can only be done by close-up inspection. However as far as the UK is concerned most of the rural distribution network is built on private land so only the land-owner would have the necessary access rights to be able to map risers on their section of the overhead line.. On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Erik Johansson erjo...@gmail.com wrote: I would really like you to expand on why adding riser=power_line;tele_communication would make things difficult to map. Though I think it might be hard to visualize making accidental deletions a worry. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] power=tower enhancement
Hi, I've heard the term riser used before but only in the context of getting pipes and cables into tall buildings. I can't offer an opinion as to whether it's the right term or not. As far as the UK is concerned this won't help much for many reasons: 1) Poles are often shared with telephone and fibre optic cables and these also have their own risers. 2) Smaller power lines (up to 11kV) often go down one riser, cross a road (or other obstruction) then up another riser to continue their journey. 3) Where three cables meet one of two of them may come up a riser and it's impossible to tell which is the supply cable and which is leading to a destination. 4) When underground cables fail they are often abandoned and left in place. The ends of the cable are disconnected at the top of each riser. And finally I think that it's going to be difficult for many people to verify that the information is correct. I'm not keen on having information in the OSM database that can only be checked and updated by very few people. Nick. On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 7:26 PM, Guillaume Allegre allegre.guilla...@free.fr wrote: Hello, I would like to propose a new tag on a power=tower (or power=pole) node. riser=yes to explain that the power line comes up from underground at this tower/pole. This would be an equivalent to noexit=yes for the roads, and would allow to quality analysis tools to better handle this situation, where a power line apparently stops. By the way, I'm not a native english speaker. I found this term riser on this technical documentation here : http://psc.wi.gov/thelibrary/publications/electric/electric11.pdf but maybe there exists a better term for this. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Proposed definition for cycleways
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 11:53 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: I'll restate it: every way or path *especially* suitable. More suitable than average. Much more suitable than average, if you like. Anyway, I'm obviously not getting my message across, so I'm going to have to think about how to express it more clearly. I'm not trying to turn OSM into a bike project - I'm actually just trying to work out a definition of cycleway that people can agree on and that is useful. The way I see it is that highway=cycleway and highway=bridleway are legacies from before OSM had access tags (foot=, bicycle-, horse= etc.). The original meaning for cycleway and bridleway have disappeared so now cycleway, bridleway and footway are synonyms with slightly different defaults for the access tags.. Just to be clear, highway=cycleway is shorthand for highway=footway + bicycle=yes and highway=bridleway is shorthand for highway=footway + horse=yes. There's no need for this definition creep nonsense. BTW, footway is a bad name. If OSM was starting over it I'd suggest that it should be highway=narrowway or similar, used for all ways that are narrower than a track. Nick. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
