Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Approved - migration to use belarusian as default language in Belarus for tagging
Yep, notify people who have edits in Belarus for the last few years. On Sun, 16 Oct 2022 at 06:41, Minh Nguyen wrote: > Vào lúc 21:56 2022-10-15, bkil đã viết: > > Why did I get a private message about this? > > I think they've been reaching out to everyone who's edited any of the > relevant keys (name, destination, etc.) in Belarus to make sure there > are no surprises. They must've cast a very thorough net. > > -- > m...@nguyen.cincinnati.oh.us > > > > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Approved - migration to use belarusian as default language in Belarus for tagging
Hey Proposal to use belarusian as default language in Belarus for tagging were approved by majority: (belarusian) https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Be:Belarus_language_issues/Migration_proposal next steps regarding proposal: - update documentation - notify major users about new rules - in month make migration - for 3-6 month actively support users to use new rules ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - migration to use belarusian as default language in Belarus for tagging
Most of places I would say on the ground presented in belarusian if we talk about toponims: cities and villages, rivers. Streets depends, for example, in Minks (capital of Belarus) it mostly belarusian on the ground. Government offices mostly has shields with two languages. For toponims using belarusian will meet ground truth in most cases. For POI proposal suggest to use ground truth directly. You just can open mapillary or google street view or yandex street view to check it. There are different resources provided about language usage during discussion for last few years as census, laws where for new toponims should have belarusian name at first and then transliterated to russian, usage on shields, paper maps and so one. It's true that russian used widelly, but belarusian also used a lot. Personally I didn't have any issue with communication on belarusian in Belarus. For most of OSM users nothing significant should be changed, applications as maps.me, organic maps, osmand will use language from settings, renders which support languages also allows you to choose language you want, search will work same way. For OSM contributors some can be changed depends what type of objects they will map. Toponims mapped very well and new added rare. Street quite actively updated in general has duplicate names. POI added more frequitently will not be affected. It's can be hard extrapolate your statistic to OSM contributors, instead lets contributors decide what language most comfortable for them. On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 at 11:33, Mariusz wrote: > On 02.10.2022 23:44, Paveł Tyślacki wrote: > > > There are link to proposal and voiting (belarusian) > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Be:Belarus_language_issues/Migration_proposal#%D0%93%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B0%D1%81%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%B5 > > There are many disturbing opposing votes claiming Belarusian language to > be language of minority, in many places not present on the ground, and > Russian language to be widely used and known. > According to Wikipedia, 30% of Belarusian can write Belarusian, 50% can > speak and read. > > How can 70% of the population actively contribute to OSM if they cannot > write the most frequently displayed text tag (name) in Belarusian? > -- > > Mariusz > > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - migration to use belarusian as default language in Belarus for tagging
Hi Want to leave reminder for active Belarus mappers who still want to take part in voting. Voting started for migration to use belarusian as default language in Belarus for tagging and will finish next week. There are link to proposal and voiting (belarusian) https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Be:Belarus_language_issues/Migration_proposal#%D0%93%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B0%D1%81%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%B5 ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - migration to use belarusian as default language in Belarus for tagging
Voting started, there are detailed instruction for belarusian active users how to vote: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Be:Belarus_language_issues/Migration_proposal#%D0%93%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B0%D1%81%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%B5 On Sun, 4 Sept 2022 at 23:06, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > > > On Sun, 4 Sept 2022 at 20:02, Paveł Tyślacki > wrote: > >> Belarusian OR russian should be used as government languages, new created >> toponims used belarusian and then transliterated to russian or other >> languages. >> >> There are few additionals: >> >> On plates for towns and villages commonly used belarusian, on plates for >> river and lakes commonly used belarusian, more difficult question for >> street plates and public transport, but in Minsk (capital of Belarus) for >> streets and public transport commonly used belarusian. >> > > Thanks! > > In that case, I personally couldn't see a problem with swapping OSM to > Belarusian. > > Thanks > > Graeme > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
