Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:traffic_calming=hillocky

[Tomáš Hurýn]

Thank you for the example. This could be another specific calming device - I 
really want the be notified by navigation when I ride motorbike 

20. prosince 2020 16:08:35 SEČ, Niels Elgaard Larsen  napsal:
>Martin Koppenhoefer:
>> 
>> 
>> sent from a phone
>> 
>>> On 19. Dec 2020, at 23:27, Brian M. Sperlongano
> wrote:
>>>
>>> I understand that the purpose of them is simply to make noise when a
>car drives 
>>> over them, as they don't slow you down in any appreciable way like a
>speed bump/hump.
>> 
>> 
>> I thought they would make people drive slower, while retaining a
>possibility for 
>> bicycles to pass in between.
>
>That is what the proposal says. But there is no way a bicycle could
>pass between 
>those seen on the proposal page at anything near normal bicycling
>speed.
>
>If you want to allow bicycle
>
>In Denmark we have a larger version of round speed bumps. Usually only
>2 or three in 
>each direction.
>
>https://aarhus.lokalavisen.dk/aarhus_midt/2dzeno-Carsten-Hedegaard-Simonsen-kigger-ned-p%C3%A5-vejbump/alternates/LANDSCAPE_640/Carsten%20Hedegaard%20Simonsen%20kigger%20ned%20p%C3%A5%20vejbump
>
>They are named "pukkelbump" which translates as hump bumps.
>
>More informally they are called turtle bumps.
>
>So maybe we should call them hedgehog bumps and turtle bumps.
>
>> I guess these would be counted in?
>> https://www.durabump.com/ 
>> 
>> Cheers Martin
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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:traffic_calming=hillocky

[Tomáš Hurýn]

ok, so we can call value fo this tag: circle_humps. What do you all think of it?

Dne neděle 20. prosince 2020 0:31:07 CET, 80hnhtv4agou--- via Tagging napsal(a):
> Round Circle Speed Humps
> 
> >Saturday, December 19, 2020 5:29 PM -06:00 from Paul Allen
> >: 
> >
> >On Sat, 19 Dec 2020 at 23:19, 80hnhtv4agou--- via Tagging < 
tagging@openstreetmap.org > wrote:
> >>https://streetsolutionsuk.co.uk/collections/speed-ramps/products/round-yel
> >>low-circle-speed-humps-50mm?variant=19772633645113>
> > 
> >That didn't take me where you intended.  I had to navigate from where I
> >ended up to those things.  Ended up at the URL you gave, but couldn't get
> >there directly.  It calls them speed bumps.  Which doesn't answer my
> >original question of whether the word "bumb" in the proposal was a typo or
> >yet another kind of traffic calming device.
> > 
> >It also doesn't directly answer if these function in the same way as
> >rumble strips or as speed bumps, but from the name I'd guess
> >they're not an alternative to rumble strips.
> > 
> >--
> >Paul
> > 
> 
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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:traffic_calming=hillocky

[Tomáš Hurýn]

I was thinking a lot about it. But bump is not so appropriate fot this kind of 
device bacuase it has specific qualities.

Dne neděle 20. prosince 2020 1:06:33 CET, Graeme Fitzpatrick napsal(a):
> On Sun, 20 Dec 2020 at 09:32, Paul Allen  wrote:
> > It calls them speed bumps.
> 
> Yep, it seems like these are just a variety of speed bump
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:traffic_calming & =bump.
> 
> The existing definition is more or less OK in that it includes
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Graeme


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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:traffic_calming=hillocky

[Tomáš Hurýn]

That is definitelly not rumble_strip, a car has to slow down to pass this 
device. It's not just 
about the noice.

Dne sobota 19. prosince 2020 23:24:58 CET, Brian M. Sperlongano napsal(a):
> I've seen these in the US also, but I never knew what they were called.  I
> understand that the purpose of them is simply to make noise when a car
> drives over them, as they don't slow you down in any appreciable way like a
> speed bump/hump.
> 
> We already have a tag for "a traffic calming device that makes noise when a
> car drives over it", which is a rumble strip
> (see: traffic_calming=rumble_strip).  Note, I am talking about the kind
> that go all the way across the road, and not the kind in the shoulder of
> the road that make noise when you veer out of your lane.
> 
> I usually think of rumble strips as grooves in the road, but it strikes me
> that these micro-speed-bump things are essentially the same thing -- they
> make noise when a car goes over it to alert the driver of something.
> 
> I'm uncomfortable with hillock/hillocky as a value.  Cursory searches seem
> to indicate that this isn't a term in use, in any flavor of English.
> 
> On Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 5:08 PM Martin Koppenhoefer 
> wrote:
> > sent from a phone
> > 
> > > On 19. Dec 2020, at 22:53, Jeremy Harris  wrote:
> > > 
> > > traffic_calming=multi_bump  ?
> > 
> > or
> > traffic_calming=mini_bumps ?
> > 
> > when they come up with something smaller that could still be micro_bumps
> > ;-)
> > 
> > 
> > Cheers Martin
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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:traffic_calming=hillocky

[Tomáš Hurýn]

Thank you, the description is more appropriate now.

Dne sobota 19. prosince 2020 20:43:00 CET, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging 
napsal(a):
> Thanks for documenting this new value!
> 
> I edited page in attempt to provide more specific definition
> (based on photos).
> 
> To author of a proposal: feel free to revert my edit or change it
> or do something else with it
> 
> I wonder whatever there is even a British English name for that
> (or is hillocky an UK name?)
> 
> Dec 19, 2020, 19:23 by thur...@gmail.com:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > 
> >   I would like introduce traffic calming device not present in the list of
> > devices.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Definition: A traffic calming device with specific qualities
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tag:traffic_calming%
> > 3Dhillocky>  
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > 
> > Tomas Huryn


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[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:traffic_calming=hillocky

[Tomáš Hurýn]

Hi,
  I would like introduce traffic calming device not present in the list 
of devices.

Definition: A traffic calming device with specific qualities 

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/
Tag:traffic_calming%3Dhillocky[1] 


Regards,
Tomas Huryn


[1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/
Tag:traffic_calming%3Dhillocky
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