Re: [Tagging] Entrances..

2010-04-30 Thread Dave F.
John F. Eldredge wrote:
 A subway entrance is a descending staircase, usually in the middle of a 
 sidewalk. 

I think your both generalizing far too much. There are many types of 
entrances to an underground (overground!) railway system.


  Coming from one direction, you encounter the steps.  Coming from the other 
 three directions, you encounter some sort of wall or fence to keep you from 
 falling into the stairwell.

   


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Re: [Tagging] Entrances..

2010-04-25 Thread John F. Eldredge
A subway entrance is a descending staircase, usually in the middle of a 
sidewalk.  Coming from one direction, you encounter the steps.  Coming from the 
other three directions, you encounter some sort of wall or fence to keep you 
from falling into the stairwell.

-- 
John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com
Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to 
think at all. -- Hypatia of Alexandria

-Original Message-
From: Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 00:11:36 
To: m...@koppenhoefer.com; Tag discussion, strategy and related 
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Subject: Re: [Tagging] Entrances..

M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote:
 2010/4/20 Erik Johansson erjo...@gmail.com:
   
 Wouldn't it be great if railway=subway_entrance was rendering
 

 +1

 currently I'm mapping them with barrier=wall (U-form) and
 highway=steps in the middle (and on the end subway_entrance) 
   
Hi

Could you expand  clarify on what you mean by U-form  why you'd tag an 
entrance with a wall?

Cheers
Dave F.

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[Tagging] Entrances..

2010-04-20 Thread Erik Johansson
Wouldn't it be great if railway=subway_entrance was rendering, and if
we had a generic scheme to tag entrances for different stuff. I've
used building=entrance, but I need to tag railway=station_entrance,
train=door, highway=bus_station_entrance  etc. etc. How do I solve
this in a better way?

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:railway%3Dsubway_entrance
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:building=entrance
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Stop_Area


When rendering railway=subway_entrance do you think one should disable
to rendering of railway=station, and in that case how do you know
which subway station to disable. About 1/3 of subway_entrances have
names, even fewer have relations, I believe using names has
advantages.

-- 
/emj

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Re: [Tagging] Entrances..

2010-04-20 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/4/20 Erik Johansson erjo...@gmail.com:
 Wouldn't it be great if railway=subway_entrance was rendering

+1

currently I'm mapping them with barrier=wall (U-form) and
highway=steps in the middle (and on the end subway_entrance) but it
would be nice to have them show up.

 , and if
 we had a generic scheme to tag entrances for different stuff. I've
 used building=entrance, but I need to tag railway=station_entrance,
 train=door, highway=bus_station_entrance  etc. etc. How do I solve
 this in a better way?


you could use barrier=entrace, but this is according to my reading of
the wiki a hole in the barrier without door or gate, that's why I
usually use barrier=gate for general entrances (which do have a
door/gate).


 When rendering railway=subway_entrance do you think one should disable
 to rendering of railway=station


-1, depends on the zoom-level


, and in that case how do you know
 which subway station to disable.


name? proximity? That would get some false positives (double-stations)

 About 1/3 of subway_entrances have
 names, even fewer have relations, I believe using names has
 advantages.

well, but name is for the name of the feature, so it could well happen
that a subway entrance has it's own name that is not the one of the
station but the one of the street it is leading to.
I'd opt for the relation.

cheers,
Martin

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