Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (changing_table:location)

2019-12-06 Thread Sören Reinecke via Tagging
I step back from my proposal 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Subkey:changing_table:location
which is totally fine because of less work. The webapp "Babykarte" by
the way supports semicolons as seperators so I do not have problems of
having semicolons in values.

Cheers

Sören Reinecke alias Valor Naram

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Subject: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (changing_table:location)
Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2019 14:39:27 +0100

Hey all,

A new but small proposal to change the specification for subkey
`changing_table:location` because of a discussion yesterday about using
seperators in values. I totally agree that we should avoid using
seperators when possible.
Proposal: 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Subkey:changing_table:location
Definition: Tagging of the location of the nappy changing facility in a
POI


Reason:
Someone pointed to the wikipage Semi-colon value separator as part of a
discussion of using semicolons as seperator of key values. In my
previous successful proposal the subkey
`changing_table:location'  allows to seperate the values by a
semicolon. While the support of a semicolon as seperator for this
subkey falls under the three exceptions ( 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Semi-colon_value_separator ), I
want to give here the chance to change that because the subkey
changing_table:location is still not in widespread use.

Cheers

Sören Reinecke alias Valor Naram

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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (changing_table:location)

2019-12-05 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer


sent from a phone

> On 5. Dec 2019, at 21:41, Jan Michel  wrote:
> 
> Also, introducing another set of 7 tags for such a minor piece of information 
> is (at least to me) an absolute overkill.


my suggestion if you want to map these in great detail would be mapping the 
bathrooms (or other things) and adding the property to them rather than the 
bigger, containing feature (museum, shopping mall etc.), also because even at 
the proposed level of detail there would be room for ambiguity (e.g. several 
distant ladies bathrooms in the same feature), or, map the changing table as a 
feature on its own rather than a property of something else. 


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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (changing_table:location)

2019-12-05 Thread Markus
Hi Sören

Multiple tags are only needed if each of them describes a different
property, which is not the case for changing_table:location. I don't
see a problem with adding two or more values separated by a semicolon
in this case. In the contrary: a value list is clearer and it seems
that it can be used more easily by data users (see this discussion [1]
and its continuation [2]). The wiki page on Semi-colon value separator
[3], which you referred to, seems to be overly strict when it says
that "avoid ';' separated values whenever possible".

[1]: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2018-December/041650.html
[2]: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2019-January/041884.html
[3]: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Semi-colon_value_separator

Regards

Markus

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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (changing_table:location)

2019-12-05 Thread Jan Michel

Hi,
I very much prefer the already accepted version. There is nothing wrong 
with semicolon separated values. Searching for one key and splitting its 
value is so much faster than searching with wildcards in a huge database 
like ours.
Also, introducing another set of 7 tags for such a minor piece of 
information is (at least to me) an absolute overkill.


Jan

On 05.12.19 14:39, Sören Reinecke via Tagging wrote:

Hey all,

A new but small proposal to change the specification for subkey 
`changing_table:location` because of a discussion yesterday about using 
seperators in values. I totally agree that we should avoid using 
seperators when possible.
Proposal: 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Subkey:changing_table:location

Definition: Tagging of the location of the nappy changing facility in a POI



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[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (changing_table:location)

2019-12-05 Thread Sören Reinecke via Tagging
Hey all,

A new but small proposal to change the specification for subkey
`changing_table:location` because of a discussion yesterday about using
seperators in values. I totally agree that we should avoid using
seperators when possible.
Proposal: 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Subkey:changing_table:location
Definition: Tagging of the location of the nappy changing facility in a
POI

Reason:
Someone pointed to the wikipage Semi-colon value separator as part of a
discussion of using semicolons as seperator of key values. In my 
previous successful proposal the subkey `changing_table:location' 
allows to seperate the values by a semicolon. While the support of a
semicolon as seperator for this subkey falls under the three exceptions
( https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Semi-colon_value_separator ), I
want to give here the chance to change that because the subkey 
changing_table:location is still not in widespread use.

Cheers

S??ren Reinecke alias Valor Naram
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