Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (traffic signals group)
Okay. I’ve made some clarifications to the proposal (avoid confusion with coordination of traffic signals along a length of road …). The remaining problem is the tag value “type=traffic_signals_group”. I agree that “group” is not the best choise. We could maybe switch to “type=traffic_signals_set”. (I would avoid “intersection_set” because the relation isn’t restricted to intersections, but could theretically also be used for pedestrian crossings on straight road; probably there is not so much need, but I don’t wont to exclude this use case.) So our choise could be “type=traffic_signals_set”? 2015-02-26 6:28 GMT, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com: Looks like this has already been discussed .. in 2008 to 2011. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/Set_of_Traffic_Signals No outcome for that .. Past discussion looks to have pointed to a relation ... the relation contains each node of traffic_light and can have a name= tag. I use 'set' because that is how they are called here in Australasia .. and it looks to be used in the UK too ... http://www.tfgm.com/Corporate/Pages/UTC-fault-reporting-form.aspx On 26/02/2015 4:55 PM, John Willis wrote: If group is not a good word, then set is a good alternative. Javbw On Feb 26, 2015, at 8:33 AM, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, This could be confused with the coordination of traffic signals along a length of road or even a district wide coordination of traffic light signals. I think it needs some words that restrict it to a single intersection? And possibly some thought to where a length of road (many intersections) or a district wide coordination of traffic signals occurs? If the name 'traffic signals group' is taken what name would you give this? May be a different name for this 'group'? Such as ? traffic signals set? On 26/02/2015 8:59 AM, Lukas Sommer wrote: Hello. This is a request for comments for the proposal http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/traffic_signals_group The original author is Sanderd17. With the consent of him, I did some supplementing. Thanks to Sanerd17! Unlike the proposal “Proposed features/Traffic Signals” of Lukas Schaus, this is _not_ about traffic light circuits, but just about grouping together all nodes with highway=traffic_signals that belong to a traffic signal system at one place. This could be useful in Japan, where traffic signal systems have namen. (Thanks to nyampire and javbw for suggestions and comments.) This could be useful for routing/turn-to-turn navigation engines to calculate better the time penalty for the traffic signal system. Best regards sommerluk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org mailto:Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging -- Lukas Sommer ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (traffic signals group)
Hello. This is a request for comments for the proposal http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/traffic_signals_group The original author is Sanderd17. With the consent of him, I did some supplementing. Thanks to Sanerd17! Unlike the proposal “Proposed features/Traffic Signals” of Lukas Schaus, this is _not_ about traffic light circuits, but just about grouping together all nodes with highway=traffic_signals that belong to a traffic signal system at one place. This could be useful in Japan, where traffic signal systems have namen. (Thanks to nyampire and javbw for suggestions and comments.) This could be useful for routing/turn-to-turn navigation engines to calculate better the time penalty for the traffic signal system. Best regards sommerluk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (traffic signals group)
Hi, This could be confused with the coordination of traffic signals along a length of road or even a district wide coordination of traffic light signals. I think it needs some words that restrict it to a single intersection? And possibly some thought to where a length of road (many intersections) or a district wide coordination of traffic signals occurs? If the name 'traffic signals group' is taken what name would you give this? May be a different name for this 'group'? Such as ? traffic signals set? On 26/02/2015 8:59 AM, Lukas Sommer wrote: Hello. This is a request for comments for the proposal http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/traffic_signals_group The original author is Sanderd17. With the consent of him, I did some supplementing. Thanks to Sanerd17! Unlike the proposal “Proposed features/Traffic Signals” of Lukas Schaus, this is _not_ about traffic light circuits, but just about grouping together all nodes with highway=traffic_signals that belong to a traffic signal system at one place. This could be useful in Japan, where traffic signal systems have namen. (Thanks to nyampire and javbw for suggestions and comments.) This could be useful for routing/turn-to-turn navigation engines to calculate better the time penalty for the traffic signal system. Best regards sommerluk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (traffic signals group)
If group is not a good word, then set is a good alternative. Javbw On Feb 26, 2015, at 8:33 AM, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, This could be confused with the coordination of traffic signals along a length of road or even a district wide coordination of traffic light signals. I think it needs some words that restrict it to a single intersection? And possibly some thought to where a length of road (many intersections) or a district wide coordination of traffic signals occurs? If the name 'traffic signals group' is taken what name would you give this? May be a different name for this 'group'? Such as ? traffic signals set? On 26/02/2015 8:59 AM, Lukas Sommer wrote: Hello. This is a request for comments for the proposal http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/traffic_signals_group The original author is Sanderd17. With the consent of him, I did some supplementing. Thanks to Sanerd17! Unlike the proposal “Proposed features/Traffic Signals” of Lukas Schaus, this is _not_ about traffic light circuits, but just about grouping together all nodes with highway=traffic_signals that belong to a traffic signal system at one place. This could be useful in Japan, where traffic signal systems have namen. (Thanks to nyampire and javbw for suggestions and comments.) This could be useful for routing/turn-to-turn navigation engines to calculate better the time penalty for the traffic signal system. Best regards sommerluk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (traffic signals group)
On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 9:55 PM, John Willis jo...@mac.com wrote: If group is not a good word, then set is a good alternative. intersection_group= intersection_set= ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (traffic signals group)
Looks like this has already been discussed .. in 2008 to 2011. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/Set_of_Traffic_Signals No outcome for that .. Past discussion looks to have pointed to a relation ... the relation contains each node of traffic_light and can have a name= tag. I use 'set' because that is how they are called here in Australasia .. and it looks to be used in the UK too ... http://www.tfgm.com/Corporate/Pages/UTC-fault-reporting-form.aspx On 26/02/2015 4:55 PM, John Willis wrote: If group is not a good word, then set is a good alternative. Javbw On Feb 26, 2015, at 8:33 AM, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, This could be confused with the coordination of traffic signals along a length of road or even a district wide coordination of traffic light signals. I think it needs some words that restrict it to a single intersection? And possibly some thought to where a length of road (many intersections) or a district wide coordination of traffic signals occurs? If the name 'traffic signals group' is taken what name would you give this? May be a different name for this 'group'? Such as ? traffic signals set? On 26/02/2015 8:59 AM, Lukas Sommer wrote: Hello. This is a request for comments for the proposal http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/traffic_signals_group The original author is Sanderd17. With the consent of him, I did some supplementing. Thanks to Sanerd17! Unlike the proposal “Proposed features/Traffic Signals” of Lukas Schaus, this is _not_ about traffic light circuits, but just about grouping together all nodes with highway=traffic_signals that belong to a traffic signal system at one place. This could be useful in Japan, where traffic signal systems have namen. (Thanks to nyampire and javbw for suggestions and comments.) This could be useful for routing/turn-to-turn navigation engines to calculate better the time penalty for the traffic signal system. Best regards sommerluk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org mailto:Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
