Re: [Tagging] Hot springs and Geysers
On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 08:42:40AM +0900, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > There are now over 500 hot springs mapped with natural=hot_spring. The tag > was proposed way back in 2008 but the proposal was never approved. Wiki: > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural%3Dhot_spring > Original proposal: > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Hot_Spring > > Some people have suggested tagging hot springs with natural=spring and a > spring=hot subtag, but hot springs have a quite different geological origin > and cultural significance. The wiki page for natural=spring has a link to > hot spring: > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural%3Dspring > > Geysers are also tagged natural=geyser. They could be considered a type of > spring, but they are also similar to a fumarole or volcanic vent, and I > would be quite surprised to see a geyser mapped as a “spring” > Wiki: > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural%3Dgeyser > > Thoughts on these tags? If natural=hot_springbkeeps climbing in use, we > could start rendering it on the Openstreetmap-Carto style (“standard > layer”) soon, if there is agreement on the tagging. yep. I avoided a vote on the proposal because too many people were suggesting to use various combinations of natural=spring+temparature=XX and similar instead. However Tag:natural=hot_spring has been created anyway, apparently is marked as "de facto" since 2015 and nobody complained since than so it would seem alright to file a ticket to OpenCarto asking to have it rendered. Richard ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Hot springs and geysers
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 10:15:56 +1000 From: Graeme Fitzpatrick To: OSM Tag Subject: Re: [Tagging] Hot springs and Geysers On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 at 09:44, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: There are now over 500 hot springs mapped with natural=hot_spring. The tag was proposed way back in 2008 but the proposal was never approved. Wiki: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural%3Dhot_spring Original proposal: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Hot_Spring Yep, sounds like a good idea Some people have suggested tagging hot springs with natural=spring and a spring=hot subtag, but hot springs have a quite different geological origin and cultural significance. The wiki page for natural=spring has a link to hot spring: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural%3Dspring Agree that hot spring & spring=hot are different Geysers are also tagged natural=geyser. They could be considered a type of spring, but they are also similar to a fumarole or volcanic vent, and I would be quite surprised to see a geyser mapped as a “spring” Wiki: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural%3Dgeyser Notice that they also suggested using hot spring for mud. I would think that bubbling mud puddles would be a different thing again? Thoughts on these tags? If natural=hot_springbkeeps climbing in use, we could start rendering it on the Openstreetmap-Carto style (“standard layer”) soon, if there is agreement on the tagging. Thanks Graeme +1 ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Hot springs and Geysers
Some hot springs just look like regular springs. But hot springs in volcanic areas are often sulfuric and may have heavy mineral content. The picture on the wiki page shows an impressive example. Others are boiling “mud pots”. I didn’t find any uses of alternative tagging of natural=spring with spring=hot or spring=hot_spring on Overpass Turbo, and the combinations listed with natural=spring by Taginfo do not show anything hot-spring related (though there may be something with less than 1000 uses) I don’t see any tags with natural=spring and spring=geyser on overpass turbo either. On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 9:57 AM Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 22/10/18 11:15, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > > > On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 at 09:44, Joseph Eisenberg > wrote: > >> There are now over 500 hot springs mapped with natural=hot_spring. The >> tag was proposed way back in 2008 but the proposal was never approved. >> Wiki: >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural%3Dhot_spring >> Original proposal: >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Hot_Spring >> > > Yep, sounds like a good idea > > >> >> Some people have suggested tagging hot springs with natural=spring and a >> spring=hot subtag, but hot springs have a quite different geological origin >> and cultural significance. The wiki page for natural=spring has a link to >> hot spring: >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural%3Dspring >> > > Agree that hot spring & spring=hot are different > > > I have seen both 'natural cold springs' and 'natural hot springs'. > To me there is enough variation in appearance of 'natural cold springs' to > encompass 'natural hot springs'. > The only difference between the two is the temperature. > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Hot springs and Geysers
On 22/10/18 11:15, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 at 09:44, Joseph Eisenberg mailto:joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com>> wrote: There are now over 500 hot springs mapped with natural=hot_spring. The tag was proposed way back in 2008 but the proposal was never approved. Wiki: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural%3Dhot_spring Original proposal: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Hot_Spring Yep, sounds like a good idea Some people have suggested tagging hot springs with natural=spring and a spring=hot subtag, but hot springs have a quite different geological origin and cultural significance. The wiki page for natural=spring has a link to hot spring: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural%3Dspring Agree that hot spring & spring=hot are different I have seen both 'natural cold springs' and 'natural hot springs'. To me there is enough variation in appearance of 'natural cold springs' to encompass 'natural hot springs'. The only difference between the two is the temperature. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Hot springs and Geysers
On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 at 09:44, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > There are now over 500 hot springs mapped with natural=hot_spring. The tag > was proposed way back in 2008 but the proposal was never approved. Wiki: > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural%3Dhot_spring > Original proposal: > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Hot_Spring > Yep, sounds like a good idea > > Some people have suggested tagging hot springs with natural=spring and a > spring=hot subtag, but hot springs have a quite different geological origin > and cultural significance. The wiki page for natural=spring has a link to > hot spring: > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural%3Dspring > Agree that hot spring & spring=hot are different > > Geysers are also tagged natural=geyser. They could be considered a type of > spring, but they are also similar to a fumarole or volcanic vent, and I > would be quite surprised to see a geyser mapped as a “spring” > Wiki: > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural%3Dgeyser > Notice that they also suggested using hot spring for mud. I would think that bubbling mud puddles would be a different thing again? > > Thoughts on these tags? If natural=hot_springbkeeps climbing in use, we > could start rendering it on the Openstreetmap-Carto style (“standard > layer”) soon, if there is agreement on the tagging. > Thanks Graeme ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
[Tagging] Hot springs and Geysers
There are now over 500 hot springs mapped with natural=hot_spring. The tag was proposed way back in 2008 but the proposal was never approved. Wiki: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural%3Dhot_spring Original proposal: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Hot_Spring Some people have suggested tagging hot springs with natural=spring and a spring=hot subtag, but hot springs have a quite different geological origin and cultural significance. The wiki page for natural=spring has a link to hot spring: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural%3Dspring Geysers are also tagged natural=geyser. They could be considered a type of spring, but they are also similar to a fumarole or volcanic vent, and I would be quite surprised to see a geyser mapped as a “spring” Wiki: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural%3Dgeyser Thoughts on these tags? If natural=hot_springbkeeps climbing in use, we could start rendering it on the Openstreetmap-Carto style (“standard layer”) soon, if there is agreement on the tagging. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
