Re: [Tagging] Is landuse=conservation actually deprecated?

[Brian M. Sperlongano]

I will note that the Massachusetts, USA mapping community does believe that
there is a distinction between the two tags, as noted here:

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Massachusetts/Conservation

However, this usage and definition seems to be specific to that particular
community and is not a widely shared viewpoint.  I was under the impression
that landuse=conservation was deprecated, but if that was resulting from an
arbitrary wiki edit and not a formal proposal, perhaps it should not be
marked deprecated in the wiki.

As to the question of whether landuse=conservation and
boundary=protected_area mean exactly the same thing, I don't think we can
answer that easily, because boundary=protected_area lacks a formal
definition.  My prior, current, and hopefully future proposal(s) are in
part working towards developing that definition of boundary=protected_area,
and aligning its meaning to the way wikipedia defines[1] protected area.

My personal *opinion* is that boundary=protected_area should deprecate
landuse=conservation, but there are certainly multiple viewpoints out there.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protected_area



On Sun, Dec 13, 2020 at 12:26 PM Joseph Eisenberg <
joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Recently another wiki user marked landuse=conservation as "deprecated" on
> the Map Features page:
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Map_Features:landuse=11273=2071912=2068278
>
> This same user had marked the page itself as deprecated back in 2017:
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag%3Alanduse%3Dconservation=revision=1498145=387459
>
> Previously the Tag:landuse=conservation page had been redirected to a
> proposal since 2009:
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/conservation
>
> *"Conservation land is land protected from development.*
>
> *It is left in more or less a natural state.*
>
> *It is often maintained to a very limited extent, such as annual mowing to
> prevent forest growth, removal of invasive species, replanting, or dealing
> with or preventing erosion.*
>
> *The public typically, but not always, has access, as it is a valuable
> recreational resource. (Sometimes the public has no physical way of getting
> to it, or is not allowed for water protection reasons, safety, etc)."*
> Now boundary=protected_area is probably the more common way to tag this
> concept.
>
> Comparison:
>
> https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/compare/boundary=protected_area/landuse=conservation
>
> landuse=conservation is declining since 2015:
> https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/landuse=conservation#chronology
>
> While boundary=protected area mostly increases, though there are some
> jumps up and down from imports I imagine:
> https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/boundary=protected_area#chronology
>
> Is it correct to say that landuse=conservation has been deprecated,
> practically, by boundary=protected_area
> , even
> though that tag has not been approved?
>
> -- Joseph Eisenberg
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[Tagging] Is landuse=conservation actually deprecated?

[Joseph Eisenberg]

Recently another wiki user marked landuse=conservation as "deprecated" on
the Map Features page:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Map_Features:landuse=11273=2071912=2068278

This same user had marked the page itself as deprecated back in 2017:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag%3Alanduse%3Dconservation=revision=1498145=387459

Previously the Tag:landuse=conservation page had been redirected to a
proposal since 2009:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/conservation

*"Conservation land is land protected from development.*

*It is left in more or less a natural state.*

*It is often maintained to a very limited extent, such as annual mowing to
prevent forest growth, removal of invasive species, replanting, or dealing
with or preventing erosion.*

*The public typically, but not always, has access, as it is a valuable
recreational resource. (Sometimes the public has no physical way of getting
to it, or is not allowed for water protection reasons, safety, etc)."*
Now boundary=protected_area is probably the more common way to tag this
concept.

Comparison:
https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/compare/boundary=protected_area/landuse=conservation

landuse=conservation is declining since 2015:
https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/landuse=conservation#chronology

While boundary=protected area mostly increases, though there are some jumps
up and down from imports I imagine:
https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/boundary=protected_area#chronology

Is it correct to say that landuse=conservation has been deprecated,
practically, by boundary=protected_area
, even
though that tag has not been approved?

-- Joseph Eisenberg
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