Re: [Tagging] Proposed features - RFC - Pipe valves

[Warin]

On 26/11/18 22:43, Xavier wrote:

On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 08:02:46PM +1100, Warin wrote:

On 26/11/18 11:04, François Lacombe wrote:

Hi,

I think the document is complete, with all expected keys and values 
for this step
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Pipeline_valves_proposal 



Let me know if any question remains unanswered.

Le jeu. 15 nov. 2018 à 01:12, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com 
> a écrit :


   I had no idea what a 'globe valve' was .. wikipedia has it ...
   what I
   had called 'jumper valves' as that is the bit I have replaced many
   times.


Glad to learn another way to name them too
Jumper valve sounds like the domestic name for globe it seems


Think it is more to do with naming the sealing washer? It "jumps" 
back to prevent back flow.

And defiantly domestic use.


Do you mean a "one-way" or "check" valve?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Check_valve




No. A check valve only does one thing, stops back flow.

A 'globe valve' controls the rate of flow anywhere from off to on, if 
fitted with a jumper valve it also stops back flow.




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Re: [Tagging] Proposed features - RFC - Pipe valves

[Xavier]

On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 08:02:46PM +1100, Warin wrote:

On 26/11/18 11:04, François Lacombe wrote:

Hi,

I think the document is complete, with all expected keys and values 
for this step

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Pipeline_valves_proposal

Let me know if any question remains unanswered.

Le jeu. 15 nov. 2018 à 01:12, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com 
> a écrit :


   I had no idea what a 'globe valve' was .. wikipedia has it  ...
   what I
   had called 'jumper valves' as that is the bit I have replaced many
   times.


Glad to learn another way to name them too
Jumper valve sounds like the domestic name for globe it seems


Think it is more to do with naming the sealing washer? It "jumps" back 
to prevent back flow.

And defiantly domestic use.


Do you mean a "one-way" or "check" valve?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Check_valve


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Re: [Tagging] Proposed features - RFC - Pipe valves

[Warin]

On 26/11/18 11:04, François Lacombe wrote:

Hi,

I think the document is complete, with all expected keys and values 
for this step

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Pipeline_valves_proposal

Let me know if any question remains unanswered.

Le jeu. 15 nov. 2018 à 01:12, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com 
> a écrit :


I had no idea what a 'globe valve' was .. wikipedia has it  ...
what I
had called 'jumper valves' as that is the bit I have replaced many
times.


Glad to learn another way to name them too
Jumper valve sounds like the domestic name for globe it seems


Think it is more to do with naming the sealing washer? It "jumps" back 
to prevent back flow.

And defiantly domestic use.



Probably best to have a picture to describe them .. you can use the
wikipedia pictures such as


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e5/Globe_valve_diagram.svg/220px-Globe_valve_diagram.svg.png


I'll surely use them to create the dedicated valve=* values pages if 
accepted

These are really good quality pictures

All the best

François


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Re: [Tagging] Proposed features - RFC - Pipe valves

[François Lacombe]

Hi,

I think the document is complete, with all expected keys and values for
this step
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Pipeline_valves_proposal

Let me know if any question remains unanswered.

Le jeu. 15 nov. 2018 à 01:12, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> a écrit :

> I had no idea what a 'globe valve' was .. wikipedia has it  ... what I
> had called 'jumper valves' as that is the bit I have replaced many times.
>

Glad to learn another way to name them too
Jumper valve sounds like the domestic name for globe it seems


>
> Probably best to have a picture to describe them .. you can use the
> wikipedia pictures such as
>
>
> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e5/Globe_valve_diagram.svg/220px-Globe_valve_diagram.svg.png
>

I'll surely use them to create the dedicated valve=* values pages if
accepted
These are really good quality pictures

All the best

François
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Re: [Tagging] Proposed features - RFC - Pipe valves

[Warin]

On 15/11/18 10:39, François Lacombe wrote:

Hi all,

The proposal about valves I was working on has reached the RFC status 
tonight

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Pipeline_valves_proposal

Goal is to describe with better destails how pipeline=valve objects 
are built and work. We can add visible information about actuators and 
sensors as needed.


Examples are a bit limited right now, I'm waiting to take pictures of 
more domestic devices.

Feel free to add if you have some ideas.
Obviously, I think about it for hydrants and emergency inlets.

Since only pipeline=valve is concerned so far, the document won't be 
applicable for canals sluice gates but most of used keys may be used 
in those situations
Don't know if sluice gates can be properly called valves despite gate 
valves are defined in norms.


Looking forward to your comments


I had no idea what a 'globe valve' was .. wikipedia has it  ... what I 
had called 'jumper valves' as that is the bit I have replaced many times.


Probably best to have a picture to describe them .. you can use the 
wikipedia pictures such as


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e5/Globe_valve_diagram.svg/220px-Globe_valve_diagram.svg.png

Not something I map, so no expertise for these.



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[Tagging] Proposed features - RFC - Pipe valves

[François Lacombe]

Hi all,

The proposal about valves I was working on has reached the RFC status
tonight
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Pipeline_valves_proposal

Goal is to describe with better destails how pipeline=valve objects are
built and work. We can add visible information about actuators and sensors
as needed.

Examples are a bit limited right now, I'm waiting to take pictures of more
domestic devices.
Feel free to add if you have some ideas.
Obviously, I think about it for hydrants and emergency inlets.

Since only pipeline=valve is concerned so far, the document won't be
applicable for canals sluice gates but most of used keys may be used in
those situations
Don't know if sluice gates can be properly called valves despite gate
valves are defined in norms.

Looking forward to your comments

All the best

François
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