Re: [Tagging] Remote controlled devices
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 2:38 PM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: > Typically it calls for 4 way red when an emergency vehicle approaches, > and delay or advanced green for high priority vehicles like a bus. > Most modern implementations have the signal go all possible movements green for the signals facing the direction the emergency vehicle is coming from, in an attempt to clear any jam and at least get a single lane open for the EMVEH to pass. This is especially true of intersections where one or more directions has a median. In Tulsa, this is a good way to gauge how the smart signal rollout is coming, since the smart signal parts of the grid will also change the next downstream light in all directions green facing the intersection of the emergency vehicle's approach, in an effort to get as much traffic potentially in it's path away as much as possible. The older ones will go all-red, or, for some reason I can't possibly fathom, turn the side street green instead... Busses definitely do seem to get priority at the signals on the smartgrid parts of town, though I don't see emitters on the buses. I figured the signals were also tapped into Tulsa Transit's bus tracker and were anticipating their approach based on speed and location as the system's tracking it via GPS and radio. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Remote controlled devices
On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 2:31 PM, François Lacombe < francois.laco...@telecom-bretagne.eu> wrote: > > there are also objects that can be influenced remotely, like busses that >> can put certain traffic_lights to green >> > > Actually I'm not sure we can talk about remote control in this situation. > Because buses won't directly turn traffic lights green. A third part > (computer, industrial processing unit...) will know the bus is coming and > adapt lights following a few rules. > The most common system is the 3M opticom, where coded infrared light is transmitted from the bus or emergency vehicle, to a sensor mounted on the traffic light. The traffic control computer (located in a box nearby) then adjusts the light as needed. Typically it calls for 4 way red when an emergency vehicle approaches, and delay or advanced green for high priority vehicles like a bus. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Remote controlled devices
Hi, Indeed, but we'd better don't do that. The need here is to actually know the device is remotely operated but not where : sometimes you don't even know this information. Furthermore, for security reasons, it's not a good idea to give such details. That's obviously not so true for things like traffic lights. Thus, a dedicated tag, much more simpler than a big relation is better. *François Lacombe* francois dot lacombe At telecom-bretagne dot eu http://www.infos-reseaux.com 2013/10/28 John Sturdy > Sich devices could be mapped using a relation to link them to their > control centre; this would be enough to imply that they are remote > controlled. > > __John > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Remote controlled devices
Sich devices could be mapped using a relation to link them to their control centre; this would be enough to imply that they are remote controlled. __John ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Remote controlled devices
Hi, 2013/10/27 Martin Koppenhoefer > > > there are also objects that can be influenced remotely, like busses that > can put certain traffic_lights to green > Actually I'm not sure we can talk about remote control in this situation. Because buses won't directly turn traffic lights green. A third part (computer, industrial processing unit...) will know the bus is coming and adapt lights following a few rules. > I'd suggest something more specific like remote-controlled=yes/no/* > > not sure for the second case, maybe remotely_controllable? values could be > radio,wire,... or maybe proximity-controll=yes would be better in case of > the bus or also for traffic junctions where policemen can set the lights? > I will agree to remotly_controllable=wires,radio,...yes,no refering to operator=* and proximity_control=buses,emergency,LAPD... which won't be the same as operator. *François Lacombe* francois dot lacombe At telecom-bretagne dot eu http://www.infos-reseaux.com ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Remote controlled devices
> Am 27/ott/2013 um 14:42 schrieb François Lacombe > : > > Examples : valves, trafic signals, variable messages panels... > > Remote controlled means that no local human action is required to make > devices works like they are supposed to work. there are also objects that can be influenced remotely, like busses that can put certain traffic_lights to green > How could we show this in OSM ? > remote=yes ? I'd suggest something more specific like remote-controlled=yes/no/* not sure for the second case, maybe remotely_controllable? values could be radio,wire,... or maybe proximity-controll=yes would be better in case of the bus or also for traffic junctions where policemen can set the lights? cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
[Tagging] Remote controlled devices
Hi, Some infrastructures may be remote controlled by their operator. Examples : valves, trafic signals, variable messages panels... Remote controlled means that no local human action is required to make devices works like they are supposed to work. How could we show this in OSM ? remote=yes ? Thank you in advance. *François Lacombe* francois dot lacombe At telecom-bretagne dot eu http://www.infos-reseaux.com ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
