Re: [Tagging] Tagging long roads
2011/2/16 Simone Saviolo simone.savi...@gmail.com: Also, if a relation was defined that groups all the ways for that highway, you could select all the members of the relation - even beetter, you could move common tags (possibly name, ref, even highway) to the relation itself. generally it is considered not to move the tags, but to copy them (at least some time ago this was the suggestion). This is some redundancy but will help keep the data more stable. There is still tools (and mappers) that have problems with relations and if the only tag for a road is on the relation and this road gets deleted from the relation (or sometimes it happened in the past that all members were deleted from a relation) the data breaks. Of cause this is a valid point for all kind of relations, but roads are a very important feature for routing (and roads beeing kept in relations are usually the more important ones). Please also consider for long roads (i.e. thousands of kilometers) to make smaller relations and group them again with parent relations to reduce the risk of conflicts. A slight OT: is there some agreed decision on how to solve conflicts in tags between a relation and its elements? Yes, correct the wrong one with local knowledge ;-). Cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Tagging long roads
2011/2/17 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com A slight OT: is there some agreed decision on how to solve conflicts in tags between a relation and its elements? Yes, correct the wrong one with local knowledge ;-). Ja, denn die Welt ist perfekt ;-) I mean, if the relation says name=Foo and the way says name=Bar, what should a consumer do? Cheers, Martin Cheers (and my most sincere apologies for raping the German language) Simone ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Tagging long roads
On Thu, 17 Feb 2011 11:46:38 +0100 Simone Saviolo simone.savi...@gmail.com wrote: I mean, if the relation says name=Foo and the way says name=Bar, what should a consumer do? We are using relations to map long highways, which in Australia customarily have names, which are well known. The route numbers are less well known. When a highway goes through a town, the streets it uses still have individual names eg Railway Street, Main Street. So it is quite normal for the relation to have name=Foo and the way have name=Baa. Martin thinks that For the name tag I would asume that the way is more probably correct then the relation, because relations are usually made for ways with the same ref, while the name might change along the road and I would asume that who made the relation maybe overlooked the differing name. but this is now a rendering problem, as both names are correct. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Tagging long roads
2011/2/16 Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com On 2/15/2011 10:22 PM, Andrew Errington wrote: Hi, I have noticed inconsistencies and discrepancies in motorway names here in Korea. I can fix this because I have photographed the roadsigns which give the correct names, however, the motorway ways are split into many (many!) segments due to bridges, tunnels, changes in numbers of lanes or speed limits etc. Plus, there are two ways for each segment (one in each direction). Is there a tool which will 'follow' a way based on some unchanging tag (e.g. ref=*) and alter other tags on each segment it finds? I only want to change the name=* tag. I don't want to change any other tags as they represent other mappers' work. Use the xapi in JOSM to download all motorways in the area, or all ref=*, or whatever: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Xapi (ctrl-L and paste the URL) Then select all the ways (ctrl-F type:way ref=*) and change the tags. Also, if a relation was defined that groups all the ways for that highway, you could select all the members of the relation - even beetter, you could move common tags (possibly name, ref, even highway) to the relation itself. A slight OT: is there some agreed decision on how to solve conflicts in tags between a relation and its elements? Regards, Simone ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Tagging long roads
On 2/15/2011 10:22 PM, Andrew Errington wrote: Hi, I have noticed inconsistencies and discrepancies in motorway names here in Korea. I can fix this because I have photographed the roadsigns which give the correct names, however, the motorway ways are split into many (many!) segments due to bridges, tunnels, changes in numbers of lanes or speed limits etc. Plus, there are two ways for each segment (one in each direction). Is there a tool which will 'follow' a way based on some unchanging tag (e.g. ref=*) and alter other tags on each segment it finds? I only want to change the name=* tag. I don't want to change any other tags as they represent other mappers' work. Use the xapi in JOSM to download all motorways in the area, or all ref=*, or whatever: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Xapi (ctrl-L and paste the URL) Then select all the ways (ctrl-F type:way ref=*) and change the tags. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
