Re: [Tagging] any valid usage of admin_level=1 ?
在 2020年5月25日週一 21:39，Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> 寫道： > > > > May 25, 2020, 15:27 by colin.sm...@xs4all.nl: > > On 2020-05-25 14:58, Marc M. wrote: > > Hello, > > following a small thread on irc, I have review 20 usage of admin_level=1 > all are mistakes, often by new mapper > for ex https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/779838275 > is there a case of real use of admin_level=1? > wiki only said that UE isn't a admin_level=1 > but don't list any valid usage of it > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dadministrative#Super-national_administrations > https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/Umf > > are these all errors or is there an undocumented usecase ? > > I think the European Union is a good candidate for admin_level=1. It has > all the attributes of an administration, including elected representatives > and (in some cases) directly effective laws. It may be unique in the world, > but that doesn't change the duck-test outcome. > > I agree that European Union seems to be a sole viable candidate. > > I don't get > "trans-national administration is not a super-national organization" > argument, EU clearly has administration, de facto (also de iure?) laws, > elections and so on. > > Though it is area where I am not confident at all, so I am not really > proposing to do that > - just that I would not be surprised or opposed. > > I fixed https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/779838275 as clearly bogus. > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging It is in the OpenStreetMap wiki itself that EU is a super-national.organization: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dadministrative What I'm thinking about is, does Realm of New Zealand http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Realm_of_New_Zealand count? Those territories in the realm seems to still have some sort of power over comprosing territories despite proclaimed independence. Likewise, what about Kingdom of Denmark (relation 9110211)? It is now being tagged as an administrative boundary but with no admin_level. And what about British Crown Dependencies (relation 9110397) and British Overseas Territory (relation 3969434)? The British Crown Dependencies is now tagged as boundary=historic which seems wrong to me as it's still current. The British Overseas Territory is tagged as boundary=administrative but with no admin_level key. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] any valid usage of admin_level=1 ?
May 25, 2020, 15:27 by colin.sm...@xs4all.nl: > > On 2020-05-25 14:58, Marc M. wrote: > > >> Hello, >> >> following a small thread on irc, I have review 20 usage of admin_level=1 >> all are mistakes, often by new mapper >> for ex >> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/779838275 >> is there a case of real use of admin_level=1? >> wiki only said that UE isn't a admin_level=1 >> but don't list any valid usage of it >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dadministrative#Super-national_administrations >> https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/Umf >> >> are these all errors or is there an undocumented usecase ? >> > I think the European Union is a good candidate for admin_level=1. It has all > the attributes of an administration, including elected representatives and > (in some cases) directly effective laws. It may be unique in the world, but > that doesn't change the duck-test outcome. > I agree that European Union seems to be a sole viable candidate. I don't get "trans-national administration is not a super-national organization" argument, EU clearly has administration, de facto (also de iure?) laws, elections and so on. Though it is area where I am not confident at all, so I am not really proposing to do that - just that I would not be surprised or opposed. I fixed https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/779838275 as clearly bogus. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] any valid usage of admin_level=1 ?
On 2020-05-25 14:58, Marc M. wrote: > Hello, > > following a small thread on irc, I have review 20 usage of admin_level=1 > all are mistakes, often by new mapper > for ex https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/779838275 > is there a case of real use of admin_level=1? > wiki only said that UE isn't a admin_level=1 > but don't list any valid usage of it > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dadministrative#Super-national_administrations > https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/Umf > > are these all errors or is there an undocumented usecase ? I think the European Union is a good candidate for admin_level=1. It has all the attributes of an administration, including elected representatives and (in some cases) directly effective laws. It may be unique in the world, but that doesn't change the duck-test outcome.___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
[Tagging] any valid usage of admin_level=1 ?
Hello, following a small thread on irc, I have review 20 usage of admin_level=1 all are mistakes, often by new mapper for ex https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/779838275 is there a case of real use of admin_level=1? wiki only said that UE isn't a admin_level=1 but don't list any valid usage of it https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dadministrative#Super-national_administrations https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/Umf are these all errors or is there an undocumented usecase ? Regards, Marc ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
