Re: [Tagging] highway=crossing/crossing=traffic_signals
I've taken to adding a way on the alignment of the crossing (with highway=footway+crossing=traffic_signals as tags). This allows them to be rendered as a orientated feature, rather than just as a node. I guess the nodes aren't rendered because otherwise you'd have traffic light symbols dotted all over the place on some junctions. It's hard to make a coherent render out of single-node features. Richard On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 12:03 AM, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: Hi The predefined options for a pedestrian road crossing that shares it's location with a set of traffic lights in P2, ID JOSM is highway=crossing crossing=traffic_signals: http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1353800523 And yet it doesn't render in mapnik. Is this intentional or an oversight? If highway is changed to traffic_signals it renders but ruins the concept of sub-tag keys relating to their parent's value. It's not like it's a rare occurrence: http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/highway=crossing#combinations I think this should be included in a future update of mapnik carto's. I suggest a traffic light icon with a different colour icon. I note the default French render with 'zebra' lines but that doesn't indicate any lights are used. Cheers Dave F. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] highway=crossing/crossing=traffic_signals
On 15/07/2015 08:42, Richard Mann wrote: I've taken to adding a way on the alignment of the crossing (with highway=footway+crossing=traffic_signals as tags). This allows them to be rendered as a orientated feature, rather than just as a node. Do you have an example? I guess the nodes aren't rendered because otherwise you'd have traffic light symbols dotted all over the place on some junctions. I don't necessarily see that as a bad thing. It should clarify routing slightly. They don't need to be rendered until zoomed right in close. Cheers Dave F. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] highway=crossing/crossing=traffic_signals
Example in OSM default render: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/51.75352/-1.26340 and my rendering: http://www.transportparadise.co.uk/busmap/?zoom=3lat=51.75325lon=-1.26182layers=B0FT On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 10:01 AM, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: On 15/07/2015 08:42, Richard Mann wrote: I've taken to adding a way on the alignment of the crossing (with highway=footway+crossing=traffic_signals as tags). This allows them to be rendered as a orientated feature, rather than just as a node. Do you have an example? I guess the nodes aren't rendered because otherwise you'd have traffic light symbols dotted all over the place on some junctions. I don't necessarily see that as a bad thing. It should clarify routing slightly. They don't need to be rendered until zoomed right in close. Cheers Dave F. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] highway=crossing/crossing=traffic_signals
Thanks This allows them to be rendered as a orientated feature, rather than just as a node. I know little of rendering rules, but the French render appears to rotate node icon to suit http://tile.openstreetmap.fr/?zoom=20lat=49.01049lon=8.3876layers=B000FF https://github.com/cquest/osmfr-cartocss/blob/abe144cfb375eb7fb403992f06924c40120c6cbf/other.mss#L3547 To me, it seems worse for mapnik to miss the rendering of 75% of traffic lights than not displaying any of them. If you can see some the assumption is that that's all of them. Dave F. On 15/07/2015 10:09, Richard Mann wrote: Example in OSM default render: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/51.75352/-1.26340 and my rendering: http://www.transportparadise.co.uk/busmap/?zoom=3lat=51.75325lon=-1.26182layers=B0FT On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 10:01 AM, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com mailto:dave...@madasafish.com wrote: On 15/07/2015 08:42, Richard Mann wrote: I've taken to adding a way on the alignment of the crossing (with highway=footway+crossing=traffic_signals as tags). This allows them to be rendered as a orientated feature, rather than just as a node. Do you have an example? I guess the nodes aren't rendered because otherwise you'd have traffic light symbols dotted all over the place on some junctions. I don't necessarily see that as a bad thing. It should clarify routing slightly. They don't need to be rendered until zoomed right in close. Cheers Dave F. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org mailto:Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] highway=crossing/crossing=traffic_signals
Rotating icons didn't used to be possible; maybe it is now (but that's a feature that isn't available in all renderers, so it's probably better to use a way, to make the data more usable). Richard On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 11:33 AM, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: Thanks This allows them to be rendered as a orientated feature, rather than just as a node. I know little of rendering rules, but the French render appears to rotate node icon to suit http://tile.openstreetmap.fr/?zoom=20lat=49.01049lon=8.3876layers=B000FF https://github.com/cquest/osmfr-cartocss/blob/abe144cfb375eb7fb403992f06924c40120c6cbf/other.mss#L3547 To me, it seems worse for mapnik to miss the rendering of 75% of traffic lights than not displaying any of them. If you can see some the assumption is that that's all of them. Dave F. On 15/07/2015 10:09, Richard Mann wrote: Example in OSM default render: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/51.75352/-1.26340 and my rendering: http://www.transportparadise.co.uk/busmap/?zoom=3lat=51.75325lon=-1.26182layers=B0FT On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 10:01 AM, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: On 15/07/2015 08:42, Richard Mann wrote: I've taken to adding a way on the alignment of the crossing (with highway=footway+crossing=traffic_signals as tags). This allows them to be rendered as a orientated feature, rather than just as a node. Do you have an example? I guess the nodes aren't rendered because otherwise you'd have traffic light symbols dotted all over the place on some junctions. I don't necessarily see that as a bad thing. It should clarify routing slightly. They don't need to be rendered until zoomed right in close. Cheers Dave F. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging ___ Tagging mailing listTagging@openstreetmap.orghttps://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging -- [image: Avast logo] http://www.avast.com/ This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
[Tagging] highway=crossing/crossing=traffic_signals
Hi The predefined options for a pedestrian road crossing that shares it's location with a set of traffic lights in P2, ID JOSM is highway=crossing crossing=traffic_signals: http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1353800523 And yet it doesn't render in mapnik. Is this intentional or an oversight? If highway is changed to traffic_signals it renders but ruins the concept of sub-tag keys relating to their parent's value. It's not like it's a rare occurrence: http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/highway=crossing#combinations I think this should be included in a future update of mapnik carto's. I suggest a traffic light icon with a different colour icon. I note the default French render with 'zebra' lines but that doesn't indicate any lights are used. Cheers Dave F. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
