[Tagging] tagging world heritage (UNESCO) and other protected areas/features
Looking up the wiki there are several proposals for protected / listed features. 1. The oldest is this: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/unesco_world_heritage suggesting historic=unesco_world_heritage actually I'd like to deprecate this because using the key historic will create collisions on many features (that are historic themselves, like historic=archeological_site), and there is the more detailed (2) covering the same features. 2. There is also this: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/heritage The page suggests to use abbreviations as values, which is not according to our general tagging rules (and IMHO pointless, why not use the full word and get a more understandable mapping?). But there are some useful ideas for subtags on the page. 3. The most universal feature is IMHO this: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dprotected_area allowing for cultural, natural and other protection types. A problem might arise if a feature is at the same time protected for different reasons. IMHO we could try to unify those different proposals. Are there already practical experiences / tags in wider use? Are there other proposals covering the same issues? cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] tagging world heritage (UNESCO) and other protected areas/features
2011/1/11 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: 2. There is also this: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/heritage another issue I have with this: the use of the key operator. IMHO an operator is someone who operates the site. In the case I'm currently tagging this is a government agency. AFAIK the unesco does not operate themselves any of the listed sites. cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] tagging world heritage (UNESCO) and other protected areas/features
Le 11/01/2011 13:34, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer a écrit : Looking up the wiki there are several proposals for protected / listed features. 1. The oldest is this: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/unesco_world_heritage suggesting historic=unesco_world_heritage actually I'd like to deprecate this because using the key historic will create collisions on many features (that are historic themselves, like historic=archeological_site), and there is the more detailed (2) covering the same features. +1 2. There is also this: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/heritage The page suggests to use abbreviations as values, which is not according to our general tagging rules (and IMHO pointless, why not use the full word and get a more understandable mapping?). But there are some useful ideas for subtags on the page. Because a monument can be registered by the UNESCO, the French Monuments Historiques and others, and may have several refs. Because writing ref:monuments historiques et sites is quite tidyous Because in France, on boundaries, we use the tag 'ref:INSEE' (for Institut National de la Statistique et des Études Économiques) But if it is necessary... another issue I have with this: the use of the key operator. IMHO an operator is someone who operates the site. In the case I'm currently tagging this is a government agency. AFAIK the unesco does not operate themselves any of the listed sites. OK, If there is something best... It is still a proposal... 3. The most universal feature is IMHO this: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dprotected_area allowing for cultural, natural and other protection types. A problem might arise if a feature is at the same time protected for different reasons. IMHO we could try to unify those different proposals. Are there already practical experiences / tags in wider use? Are there other proposals covering the same issues? But the heritage tag may be applied also to a node, to a way... not with boudaries Someone on this list, some times ago, said he prefered an other key, but I don't remember... maybe protection... Something more general sounds good for me. The idea is to record that something is registered, by the UNESCO or other organisation, for cultural, historical, environmental... reason You have best ideas than mine ? You are welcome. It is still a proposal... -- FrViPofm ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] tagging world heritage (UNESCO) and other protected areas/features
2011/1/11 Vincent Pottier vpott...@gmail.com: But the heritage tag may be applied also to a node, to a way... not with boundaries This is true. We could use the other tags still, without the boundary-way. In the end all objects will be bigger then just a point, so I'd expect from a detailed mapping to have areas / ways at a certain point. The node could be used to collect the information preliminarily and later they would be copied over to a way. The idea is to record that something is registered, by the UNESCO or other organisation, for cultural, historical, environmental... reason yes, exactly. There is lots of this, also nature reserves at different protection levels. heritage is IMHO a tag that is already specific (in the sense that it claims high importance) so it is less suitable for less important communal/regional natural protection. Shall we have more than one main tag for this (protected area and heritage)? (This is not a rhetorical question). cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] tagging world heritage (UNESCO) and other protected areas/features
On Tue, 11 Jan 2011 17:00:25 +0100 Vincent Pottier vpott...@gmail.com wrote: The page suggests to use abbreviations as values, which is not according to our general tagging rules (and IMHO pointless, why not use the full word and get a more understandable mapping?). But there are some useful ideas for subtags on the page. Because a monument can be registered by the UNESCO, the French Monuments Historiques and others, and may have several refs. Because writing ref:monuments historiques et sites is quite tidyous Because in France, on boundaries, we use the tag 'ref:INSEE' (for Institut National de la Statistique et des Études Économiques) UNESCO is an abbreviation too ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
