Re: [Tagging] [RFC] Feature Proposal - Replace `*:signed` suffix key with `signed:*` prefix key

[Matija Nalis]

On Fri, 17 Feb 2023 03:10:31 +0100, Marc_marc  wrote:
> Le 17.02.23 à 01:38, Matija Nalis a écrit :
>> Cross-posting from the forum:
>
> thanks... we see the community split :
> no reply from the other to the previous message
> due to the fragmentation of several unconnected
> interface
>

Yes, that is unfortunate. :-(
Hopefully at some time in the future ML and forum will be automagically merged, 
so it might heal.

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Re: [Tagging] [RFC] Feature Proposal - Replace `*:signed` suffix key with `signed:*` prefix key

[Marc_marc]

Le 17.02.23 à 01:38, Matija Nalis a écrit :

Cross-posting from the forum:


thanks... we see the community split :
no reply from the other to the previous message
due to the fragmentation of several unconnected
interface



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Re: [Tagging] [RFC] Feature Proposal - Replace `*:signed` suffix key with `signed:*` prefix key

[Matija Nalis]

Cross-posting from the forum:
https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/rfc-feature-proposal-replace-signed-suffix-key-with-is-signed-prefix-key/8459/45

Voting on 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Replace_*:signed_with_is_signed:*
 
has now started.


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Re: [Tagging] [RFC] Feature Proposal - Replace `*:signed` suffix key with `signed:*` prefix key

[Andy Townsend]

On 01/02/2023 16:08, Marc_marc wrote:

you can obviously just set unsigned=A;B


I've got to admit, I didn't see that one coming!

"unsigned=yes" is way ahead of all other "unsigned=" uses (see 
https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/unsigned#values ). However, 24 
people have used "unsigned=name", so it's not entirely unknown.  No 
"unsigned=A;B" combinations have more that a single usage, though.


Best Regards,

Andy



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Re: [Tagging] [RFC] Feature Proposal - Replace `*:signed` suffix key with `signed:*` prefix key

[Marc_marc]

Hello,


Le 01.02.23 à 16:47, Zeke Farwell a écrit :





this is the caricature of the confusion between key and value :
if a key has only one value then it is the value of another more 
relevant key
in this case the key *:signed=* has only one useful value, that of 
*:signed=no (e.g. name:signed=no) to allow collection tools not

to ask for name=* if there is nothing on the ground
unsigned=name also does this, in a much more consistent way
and if you have A:signed=no A:signed=no, you can obviously
just set unsigned=A;B

Regards,
Marc



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