Re: [Tagging] Dispensing vs vending (Was: Combined waste/recycling bins)
On Sat, 13 Oct 2018 at 17:03, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > amenity=parcel_station > > parcel_station:send=yes/no > > parcel_station:receive=yes/no > > > +1, would be fine for me. > or amenity=parcel_machine? I'm indifferent to the tag name. Other possibilities are parcel locker or parcel terminal. Some statistics from Google: "parcel locker": about 200.000 results "parcel terminal": about 153.000 results "parcel station": about 109.000 results "parcel machine": about 41.400 results Maybe parcel locker is the most descriptive one. > I believe packstation is a trademark In any case it seems that only DHL (Germany) uses this term. (I've never heard it. They're called 'My Post 24' in CH.) On Sat, 13 Oct 2018 at 17:40, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > maybe it would be better to use more universally applicable tags like > parcel:sending > parcel:pickup Good idea! Regards Markus ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Dispensing vs vending (Was: Combined waste/recycling bins)
>> amenity=parcel_station >> parcel_station:send=yes/no >> parcel_station:receive=yes/no maybe it would be better to use more universally applicable tags like parcel:sending parcel:pickup Cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Dispensing vs vending (Was: Combined waste/recycling bins)
sent from a phone > On 12. Oct 2018, at 13:51, SelfishSeahorse wrote: > > amenity=parcel_station > parcel_station:send=yes/no > parcel_station:receive=yes/no +1, would be fine for me. or amenity=parcel_machine? I believe packstation is a trademark Cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Dispensing vs vending (Was: Combined waste/recycling bins)
On Thu, 11 Oct 2018 at 11:28, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > no, I would remove only those from "vending", which are not about vending. > E.g. parcels and excrement bags. Those that are about dispensers could get a > dispensing tag, those that offer completely different services like parcel > drop off should get proper tags that describe the thing. What about amenity=parcel_station parcel_station:send=yes/no parcel_station:receive=yes/no ? Regards Markus ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Dispensing vs vending (Was: Combined waste/recycling bins)
Am Do., 11. Okt. 2018 um 11:03 Uhr schrieb marc marc < marc_marc_...@hotmail.com>: > this info is already in the fee tag no ? > it is a contradiction. > yes the word vending is not perfect when it's for free (in fact > it's paid for by taxes) > it is not only "not perfect", it is completely wrong. Either you buy something or you get it for free, both is not possible at the same time. > So did you want to duplicate the fee in the vending<>dispensing value or > move all 100k+ vending* to dispensing* ? > no, I would remove only those from "vending", which are not about vending. E.g. parcels and excrement bags. Those that are about dispensers could get a dispensing tag, those that offer completely different services like parcel drop off should get proper tags that describe the thing. Shall we wait until it is millions? What we have currently is tagging for the renderer, laziness to develop appropriate tags, or whatever. It is not only ugly, it is misleading and self-contradictory. Cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Dispensing vs vending (Was: Combined waste/recycling bins)
> On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 at 00:50, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: >> while vending=* with fee=no is some kind of open contradiction >> Shouldn’t that better be „dispensing“ rather than vending? this info is already in the fee tag no ? yes the word vending is not perfect when it's for free (in fact it's paid for by taxes) So did you want to duplicate the fee in the vending<>dispensing value or move all 100k+ vending* to dispensing* ? ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Dispensing vs vending (Was: Combined waste/recycling bins)
You should create a wiki page for your extension proposal and perhaps submit an RFC. It is also displayed in the red banner here: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Ddog_bin Some more references: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:vending%3Dexcrement_bags https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Animals https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Dog_off-leash_area https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:dog https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:amenity%3Dwaste_basket On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 7:55 PM SelfishSeahorse wrote: > > On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 at 00:50, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > > > > On 9. Oct 2018, at 21:19, bkil wrote: > > > > > > amenity=waste_basket > > > waste=dog_excrement > > > vending=excrement_bags > > > > > > I've also seen waste_basket:excrement_bags=yes and fee=no, but I don't > > > see much value in these at this point in time. > > > > while vending=* with fee=no is some kind of open contradiction, without the > > fee tag the contradiction is implicitly still there in many instances. > > > > Shouldn’t that better be „dispensing“ rather than vending? > > I've used dispensing:excrement_bags=yes several times, in combination > with either amenity=dispenser (example [1]) or amenity=waste_basket > (example [2]). > > [1]: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Cézy-FR-89-toutounet-01.jpg > [2]: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Dogs_excrements_A.jpg > > Now that i checked Taginfo, these tags have all gone away, obviously > been 'corrected' -- very annoying ... > > https://images.says.com/uploads/story_source/source_image/405030/1ae1.png > > Markus > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
