Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - via_ferrata
The problem is the use of two scale, German and French. Same for path I propose the use of only one scale (german) because it don't have the scale 0. Then only Via Ferrata that required equipment are tagged as Via Ferrata, the other as path with equiped (same as Proposal wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Safety_measures_on_hiking_trails) -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Feature-Proposal-RFC-via-ferrata-tp5776186p5779744.html Sent from the Tagging mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - via_ferrata
And I don't know why the writer of this proposal stop the work about 1 years. -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Feature-Proposal-RFC-via-ferrata-tp5776186p5779745.html Sent from the Tagging mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - via_ferrata
I read that many people suggest this but not change in the proposal. -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Feature-Proposal-RFC-via-ferrata-tp5776186p5779587.html Sent from the Tagging mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - via_ferrata
On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 2:59 PM, bredy bredy...@yahoo.it wrote: I read that many people suggest this but not change in the proposal. The via_ferrata_scale is based on some external definition (read the wiki). If you are not aware about what a via ferrata is, don't change the proposal. scale=0 means that you don't need climbing gear but there is some basic security equipments along the (short) path. Also this kind of path is specific enough to not use the classical highway=path as I've previously seen in this thread. It's also not a problem if it is not rendered on the main map styles since it is probably for dedicated and specialized maps. Pieren ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - via_ferrata
Or change this proposal or cancel the proposal wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Safety_measures_on_hiking_trails because they have same meaning. And I saw what is a via ferrata, I'm an alpin troupe officer. The meaning of first grade of scale actualy is for equiped path and not for via ferrata. -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Feature-Proposal-RFC-via-ferrata-tp5776186p5779595.html Sent from the Tagging mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - via_ferrata
On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 3:58 PM, bredy bredy...@yahoo.it wrote: Or change this proposal or cancel the proposal wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Safety_measures_on_hiking_trails because they have same meaning. I think the two proposals can be easily merged. Anyone concerned is free to edit the wiki. The meaning of first grade of scale actualy is for equiped path and not for via ferrata. A via ferrata route can be split in different segments and scales and some can be scale=0. And again, the definition is external of the OSM project. I don't see why we should reject some of the values. It has to be discussed with the original authors but not in OSM. Pieren ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - via_ferrata
For me all path are equiped with some technical equipment are via ferrata, because with this tag you see in the map that in that point the path have some technical equipment. And because the first scale grade of via ferrata say No equipment requaired. All map write cross in the point with technical equipment. -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Feature-Proposal-RFC-via-ferrata-tp5776186p5779437.html Sent from the Tagging mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - via_ferrata
Am 30.09.2013 10:37, schrieb bredy: For me all path are equiped with some technical equipment are via ferrata, because with this tag you see in the map that in that point the path have some technical equipment. And because the first scale grade of via ferrata say No equipment requaired. All map write cross in the point with technical equipment. I understand your point in diversifying climbling and other routes with required equipment but I would not use highway=* for this. I think it is much easier to either add no highway tag at all and/or highway=path plus sac_scale and add extra information as via_ferrata=* and subtags. cu fly ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - via_ferrata
the via ferrata have different scale of difficult respect the sac_scale, but I'm not the writer of this proposal. I only want to proceed with it. -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Feature-Proposal-RFC-via-ferrata-tp5776186p5779482.html Sent from the Tagging mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - via_ferrata
Am 30.09.2013 18:55, schrieb bredy: the via ferrata have different scale of difficult respect the sac_scale, but I'm not the writer of this proposal. I only want to proceed with it. You can use both if needed and I have no problem via_ferrata_scale=*. fly ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - via_ferrata
Who decided the start of voting? Is just 2 yaers without no discussion. The feature is good for alpin tagging. If none that write the proposal are present I try to restart the process. -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Feature-Proposal-RFC-via-ferrata-tp5776186p5779281.html Sent from the Tagging mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - via_ferrata
But sometimes the via ferrata is part of the path, the have the same ref. And why don't use the scale difficult of SAC for klettersteg? Klettersteg difficult SAC http://www.sac-cas.ch/fr/nc/en-route/echelles-de-difficultes.html?cid=1502did=1001586sechash=6dc5ca1b -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Feature-Proposal-RFC-via-ferrata-tp5776186p5778848.html Sent from the Tagging mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
