Re: [Tagging] Proposed Feature - Public Transport - Voting

2011-04-04 Thread Ilya Zverev

I guess I can answer some of the questions.

 1. In the provided links I can see all the street names in German. Do 
 you have any examples of uses outside of the German cultural raum?

We in Russia have created several routes using this schema. For example,
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/407276
There was a large discussion on public transport in our forum, and by now
every participant of that discussion has stated their approval for this
proposal.

 3. How do you intend to scale the level of difficulty? What is aimed at 
 beginners, and what is for intermediate and advanced mappers? Have you 
 included any of the suggestions from the earlier conversation on the 
 newsgroup?

Not all elements of the proposal are marked as required. Old PT schema is
still supported with this proposal. A beginner can map just routes and
public transport stops, like before, and it still would work. Only the
tagging have been changed: various bus_stop, platform were replaced by a
single public_transport=platform. Now discussions like Where to place
highway=bus_stop nodes have become irrelevant: the new schema is very
clear on this. So I think that intermediate mappers (?) will learn the
proposed PT schema faster and will make less errors, than with the old
one.


IZ

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Re: [Tagging] Proposed Feature - Public Transport - Voting

2011-04-03 Thread MichaƂ Borsuk

On 31.03.2011 10:41, Dominik Mahrer (Teddy) wrote:

Hi

Voting is open for public transport proposal:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Public_Transport



1. In the provided links I can see all the street names in German. Do 
you have any examples of uses outside of the German cultural raum?


2. So far the idea has been criticized for being too complicated. Your 
proposition contains *eleven* elements/combinations of elements/, such 
as Simple bus stop where the bus has a segregated service way. It can 
still be easily shunned as too complicated.


Please explain what you did to address the issue in question.

3. How do you intend to scale the level of difficulty? What is aimed at 
beginners, and what is for intermediate and advanced mappers? Have you 
included any of the suggestions from the earlier conversation on the 
newsgroup?




Greetings,

LMB


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Re: [Tagging] Proposed Feature - Public Transport - Voting

2011-03-31 Thread Dave F.

On 31/03/2011 09:41, Dominik Mahrer (Teddy) wrote:

Hi

Voting is open for public transport proposal:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Public_Transport


Hi Teddy

Do you have an example of a stop_area that we can look at?

Cheers
Dave F.

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Re: [Tagging] Proposed Feature - Public Transport - Voting

2011-03-31 Thread SomeoneElse

On 31/03/2011 09:41, Dominik Mahrer (Teddy) wrote:

Voting is open for public transport proposal:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Public_Transport


This may be a silly question, but...

From a mkgmap perspective, I can search for public_transport=platform 
and treat it as highway=bus_stop, but how do I know that something's a 
bus stop not a railway platform if e.g. operator and network are unknown 
and unmapped?


Cheers,
Andy


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Re: [Tagging] Proposed Feature - Public Transport - Voting

2011-03-31 Thread Dominik Mahrer (Teddy)

Hi Dave

There are (hopefully enough) examples in the proposal.

Cheers
Teddy


On 31.03.2011 13:01, Dave F. wrote:

On 31/03/2011 09:41, Dominik Mahrer (Teddy) wrote:

Hi

Voting is open for public transport proposal:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Public_Transport


Hi Teddy

Do you have an example of a stop_area that we can look at?

Cheers
Dave F.

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