Re: [Tagging] religion=multi* ?
that is not a problem, as multi doesn't exclude all, but all requires all Indeed, it is not a problem, it is a solution ! :) Use two values for slightly different concepts. multi == multifaith == multiconfessional == various == value1;value2;... all == non-denominational == nondenominational == all_religions == every_religion Anyway I hope that Andy aka SomeoneElse li...@atownsend.org.uk can give us his feedback. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] religion=multi* ?
2015-01-13 11:44 GMT+01:00 althio althio althio.fo...@gmail.com: Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: religion=multi looks OK to me, the similarity to sport makes it easier to remember than religion=all (and it is very likely more accurate, as all is too inclusive I guess). Some airports REALLY wants to be that inclusive. that is not a problem, as multi doesn't exclude all, but all requires all. cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] religion=multi* ?
2015-01-12 21:59 GMT+01:00 althio althio althio.fo...@gmail.com: I think they are definitively for worshiping and prayers. amenity=place_of_worship is pretty clear for me. also this one: http://gloria.tv/?media=600653language=o9CtE7uatTg looks like a wayside shrine, but the title says place of worship... cheers, Martin PS: religion=multi looks OK to me, the similarity to sport makes it easier to remember than religion=all (and it is very likely more accurate, as all is too inclusive I guess). ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] religion=multi* ?
Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: religion=multi looks OK to me, the similarity to sport makes it easier to remember than religion=all (and it is very likely more accurate, as all is too inclusive I guess). Some airports REALLY wants to be that inclusive. a prayer room for all faiths and denominations at Stansted. We welcome people of all faiths to join us in our chapel and prayer rooms at Gatwick. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] religion=multi* ?
John Willis jo...@mac.com wrote: multi fits the sports tagging scheme well, and I think it is best for the religion tag too. Allis not good, as most sports places don have a clay sumo ring or a sandy pit for beach volleyball set up, so all would be wrong. @John I guess this is a reply to my idea of separate tagging: A. non-denominational places (Airport chapels ...) religion=all (OR religion=nondenominational) B. places shared between faiths (but specific faiths, not all faiths) religion=multi + religion:religion1=yes + religion:religion2=yes (OR religion=religion1;religion2 but you are into semi-colon value separator) My idea was to answer to SomeoneElse in https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2015-January/020865.html I don't propose to discard multi for all. Instead I consider if there is value to use both, religion=all in some cases and religion=multi in other cases. Allis not good, [...] Similarly, animal sacrifice and practicing voodoo at the airport's prayer room might get you arrested. Oh my. It does not mean voodoo practionners are not allowed into the prayer room as long as they respect country and airport laws and regulations. This is not a question of restricted access or restricted faith/religion but of adaquate behaviour. I have never seen a sign 'no voodoo' on the prayer room of any airport. If this prayer room with this sign does exist, then it could be defined as multi. Or all + religion:voodoo=no. [[[ [heavy sarcasm] Did you know that every religion has at least one practice not suitable for a prayer room, name it: flogging (self-inflicted flagellation), stoning (lapidation), circumcision, ... Should we ban every religion from prayer rooms? ]]] I think the spirit of these prayer rooms is to welcome anyone, from all faiths. From the website of airports: multi-faith prayer rooms in each terminal at Heathrow. (against voodoo?) ;-) a prayer room for all faiths and denominations at Stansted. We welcome people of all faiths to join us in our chapel and prayer rooms at Gatwick. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] religion=multi* ?
Jgpacker asks on the PoW talk page: Are [Airports prayer rooms] really tagged with amenity=place_of_worship? I would say it's quite a different place from a normal religious place, and should get another tag. I think they are definitively for worshiping and prayers. amenity=place_of_worship is pretty clear for me. Being different from the regular religious place, not consecrated, no significant architecture, they are not building=church/mosque/temple/*. Indoor mapping might tell you room=chapel or room=prayer_room instead. Besides amenity=place_of_worship. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] religion=multi* ?
Jgpacker asks on the PoW talk page: Are [Airports prayer rooms] really tagged with amenity=place_of_worship? I would say it's quite a different place from a normal religious place, and should get another tag. I'd say they are places where people go for worshipping, and for practicability they are provided religion-neutral, thus yes. If you climb a mountain that has a chapel on top, this is also not your normal place, but one during travel. tom ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] religion=multi* ?
That would explain the absence of multipoodle, despite the popularity of poodle-worshipping among members of this list. :-P -jack In this dropdown, iD is simply returning the most popular results from taginfo: https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/religion#values https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/religion#values On Jan 10, 2015, at 6:57 PM, Tom Pfeifer t.pfei...@computer.org wrote: well that explains the slightly, but not significantly, higher usage numbers on this value. Interesting enough that iD implements a value that is not even documented. Jack Burke wrote on 2015-01-10 20:18: The ID editor already has multifaith as a selectable pull-down item for the religion= tag. -- Typos courtesy of fancy auto-spell technology. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] religion=multi* ?
In this dropdown, iD is simply returning the most popular results from taginfo: https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/religion#values https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/religion#values On Jan 10, 2015, at 6:57 PM, Tom Pfeifer t.pfei...@computer.org wrote: well that explains the slightly, but not significantly, higher usage numbers on this value. Interesting enough that iD implements a value that is not even documented. Jack Burke wrote on 2015-01-10 20:18: The ID editor already has multifaith as a selectable pull-down item for the religion= tag. [changing subject back from Re: [Tagging] Tagging Digest, Vol 64, Issue 30] ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] religion=multi* ?
As poodles are always the litmus test for new tags, toy poodles are acceptable, full poodles are not. You can stash your sacrifice in your carry-on quite quickly if need be - if it's a toy poodle. Javbw On Jan 10, 2015, at 9:23 AM, SomeoneElse li...@atownsend.org.uk wrote: On 10/01/2015 00:17, John Willis wrote: Similarly, animal sacrifice and practicing voodoo at the airport's prayer room might get you arrested. Not even poodles? :) https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2015-January/020847.html Cheers, Andy ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] religion=multi* ?
multi fits the sports tagging scheme well, and I think it is best for the religion tag too. Allis not good, as most sports places don have a clay sumo ring or a sandy pit for beach volleyball set up, so all would be wrong. Similarly, animal sacrifice and practicing voodoo at the airport's prayer room might get you arrested. Multi seems the best fit. Javbw On Jan 10, 2015, at 12:58 AM, Andreas Neumann andr-neum...@gmx.net wrote: On 09.01.2015 13:52, John Sturdy wrote: Wouldn't it be simplest to leave the religion or denomination tag out, if the facility isn't specific to a particular religion or denomination? __John Hi, I see this problem: Where is the difference between a multifaith place and an object with missing religion-tag? Andreas -- Andreas Neumann http://Map4Jena.de http://Stadtplan-Ilmenau.de ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] religion=multi* ?
On 10/01/2015 00:17, John Willis wrote: Similarly, animal sacrifice and practicing voodoo at the airport's prayer room might get you arrested. Not even poodles? :) https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2015-January/020847.html Cheers, Andy ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] religion=multi* ?
Wouldn't it be simplest to leave the religion or denomination tag out, if the facility isn't specific to a particular religion or denomination? __John On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 11:30 AM, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: On 09/01/2015 01:53, Tom Pfeifer wrote: Martin Koppenhoefer wrote on 2015-01-09 00:56: denomination=none ;-) Nice, but we need to stay on the religion= level But couldn't the sharing be inter-denominational, rather than inter-religion? As I see it: 1. No specific religion, such as rooms at hospitals, airports etc. 2. Shared places where different religions/denominations preach/perform services at separate times. 3. Shared places where different religions/denominations preach/perform services at the same time. I'm guessing this would more likely be denominations than religion. Dave F. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] religion=multi* ?
On 09/01/2015 01:53, Tom Pfeifer wrote: Martin Koppenhoefer wrote on 2015-01-09 00:56: denomination=none ;-) Nice, but we need to stay on the religion= level But couldn't the sharing be inter-denominational, rather than inter-religion? As I see it: 1. No specific religion, such as rooms at hospitals, airports etc. 2. Shared places where different religions/denominations preach/perform services at separate times. 3. Shared places where different religions/denominations preach/perform services at the same time. I'm guessing this would more likely be denominations than religion. Dave F. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] religion=multi* ?
M 2015-01-08 23:21 GMT+01:00 johnw jo...@mac.com: The exact word is nondenominational, but multi fits with OSM definitions. Maybe referencing that word on the wiki definition is the way to go. Wikipedia: A non-denominational person or organization is not restricted to any particular or specific religious denomination http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_denomination. The term has been used in the context of various faiths including Jainism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jainism, Baha'i Faith http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baha%27i_Faith, Zoroastrianism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoroastrianism, Islam http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam, Christianity http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity,Judaism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judaism, Hinduism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinduism, Buddhism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism and Wicca http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wicca. It stands in contrast with a religious denomination http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_denomination. denomination=none ;-) cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] religion=multi* ?
Martin Koppenhoefer wrote on 2015-01-09 00:56: denomination=none ;-) Nice, but we need to stay on the religion= level 2015-01-08 23:21 GMT+01:00 johnw jo...@mac.com: The exact word is nondenominational, but multi fits with OSM definitions. As above, I would avoid the term 'denomination' in the value, to avoid confusion within the religion/denomination hierarchy in OSM, but the definition is good for the explanation, e.g.: religion=m.. A non-denominational or multi-faith facility that allows followers of different religions to practice their own faith in a quiet environment. Examples are prayer rooms or quiet rooms in airports and other multi-cultural environments. SomeoneElse wrote on 2015-01-08 23:28: But as well as non-denominational places [...] there are also places shared between faiths Would you see an OSM-relevant difference between them, or could they go with the same multi(faith) value? tom ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] religion=multi* ?
SomeoneElse wrote on 2015-01-08 23:28: Would you see an OSM-relevant difference between them, or could they go with the same multi(faith) value? tom Multi seems to be the right value. the definition on the wiki should reference those other fancier words so there is no confusion. Javbw ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] religion=multi* ?
How about... non-denominational places (Airport chapels ...) religion=all places shared between faiths religion=multi Optionally more details with a scheme similar to: religion:christian http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/religion=christian=yes/* religion:muslim http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/religion=muslim =yes/* religion:buddhist http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/religion=buddhist =yes/* religion:hindu http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/religion=hindu=yes/* religion:jewish http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/religion=jewish =yes/* religion:shinto http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/religion=shinto =yes/* religion:taoist http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/religion=taoist =yes/* religion:sikh http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/religion=sikh=yes/* religion:*=* ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] religion=multi* ?
On Jan 8, 2015, at 11:11 PM, Tom Pfeifer t.pfei...@computer.org wrote: No value has been documented so far for rooms dedicated for worshipping without being limited to a specific religion. My favourite would be multi as is is concise and also used in sport=multi, The exact word is nondenominational, but multi fits with OSM definitions. Maybe referencing that word on the wiki definition is the way to go. Wikipedia: A non-denominational person or organization is not restricted to any particular or specific religious denomination http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_denomination. The term has been used in the context of various faiths including Jainism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jainism, Baha'i Faith http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baha%27i_Faith, Zoroastrianism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoroastrianism, Islam http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam, Christianity http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity,Judaism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judaism, Hinduism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinduism, Buddhism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism and Wicca http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wicca. It stands in contrast with a religious denomination http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_denomination.” Javbw___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] religion=multi* ?
On 08/01/2015 22:21, johnw wrote: On Jan 8, 2015, at 11:11 PM, Tom Pfeifer t.pfei...@computer.org mailto:t.pfei...@computer.org wrote: ... My favourite would be multi as is is concise and also used in sport=multi, The exact word is nondenominational, but multi fits with OSM definitions. Maybe referencing that word on the wiki definition is the way to go. Well - maybe. But as well as non-denominational places (Airport chapels perhaps?) there are also places shared between faiths - in the UK at least multifaith is commonly used for that. Or just multi, as was originally suggested. Cheers, Andy ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] religion
John Smith wrote: On 31 May 2010 18:04, Simone Saviolo simone.savi...@gmail.com wrote: Would you tag the Parthenon as religion=ancient_greek or something like that? IMHO, the religion tag should only be used for what is actively used for religious ceremonies. The Parthenon isn't a good example, since it has been many things to many groups including storing explosives at one point. What would you tag Stone Hedge in the UK? Sundial? :-) ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] religion
On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 6:04 PM, Simone Saviolo simone.savi...@gmail.com wrote: Would you tag the Parthenon as religion=ancient_greek or something like that? IMHO, the religion tag should only be used for what is actively used for religious ceremonies. No, that would be the amenity=place_of_worship tag. religion= should be descriptive, and used to add more detail to any other main tag. Steve ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] religion
On 31 May 2010 18:04, Simone Saviolo simone.savi...@gmail.com wrote: Would you tag the Parthenon as religion=ancient_greek or something like that? IMHO, the religion tag should only be used for what is actively used for religious ceremonies. The Parthenon isn't a good example, since it has been many things to many groups including storing explosives at one point. What would you tag Stone Hedge in the UK? There is ceremonies held at Stone Henge at various times of the year. You also have the site in Greece where they perform ritualistic ceremonies to light the torch for the Olympic torch relays. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] religion
On 5/31/10, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: The Parthenon isn't a good example, since it has been many things to many groups including storing explosives at one point. indeed, I don't think it is currently used for anything beside as an historical monument What would you tag Stone Hedge in the UK? historical=something + place_of_worship, since it is used for both You also have the site in Greece where they perform ritualistic ceremonies to light the torch for the Olympic torch relays. I don't think those are religious rituals (as opposed to the ancient olympics) -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' homepage: http://www.trueelena.org email: elena.valha...@gmail.com ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
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On 31 May 2010 18:56, Elena of Valhalla elena.valha...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think those are religious rituals (as opposed to the ancient olympics) There is ceremonies that occur at different times of the year, eg summer solstice: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stone_Henge#Neopaganism ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] religion
On 5/31/10, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 31 May 2010 18:56, Elena of Valhalla elena.valha...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think those are religious rituals (as opposed to the ancient olympics) There is ceremonies that occur at different times of the year, eg summer solstice: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stone_Henge#Neopaganism that's the stonehenge ones, I meant that the (modern) olympics one aren't religious AFAIK -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' homepage: http://www.trueelena.org email: elena.valha...@gmail.com ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] religion
On 31 May 2010 19:15, Elena of Valhalla elena.valha...@gmail.com wrote: that's the stonehenge ones, I meant that the (modern) olympics one aren't religious AFAIK That's the thing about religions, you can't prove things either way usually. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] religion
2010/5/31 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com: On 31 May 2010 19:15, Elena of Valhalla elena.valha...@gmail.com wrote: that's the stonehenge ones, I meant that the (modern) olympics one aren't religious AFAIK That's the thing about religions, you can't prove things either way usually. Well, if you want to sort it out that way, then we should probably tag religion=civic the inauguration ceremony of the President of the USA. Modern olympics start with a ceremony, but no god or declaration of faith is involved. It's clear that it is not a religious event. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] religion
2010/5/31 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com: On 31 May 2010 19:42, Simone Saviolo simone.savi...@gmail.com wrote: Modern olympics start with a ceremony, but no god or declaration of faith is involved. It's clear that it is not a religious event. I don't know about declarations of faith, but the torch is symbolic of one god stealing fire from Zeus and then hot footing it. AFAIK, the god would be the very human Prometeus, to be picky (I may be wrong). But seriously, do you see people hoping that the torch will give them eternal life, happiness after death or such? By that criterion, any Roman statue of an emperor should be marked as a religious expression, because the emperor claimed to have power of divine nature. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] religion
On 31 May 2010 19:52, Simone Saviolo simone.savi...@gmail.com wrote: AFAIK, the god would be the very human Prometeus, to be picky (I may be wrong). But seriously, do you see people hoping that the torch will According to wikipedia Prometeus was a titan... give them eternal life, happiness after death or such? By that criterion, any Roman statue of an emperor should be marked as a religious expression, because the emperor claimed to have power of divine nature. Note all religious ceremonies are about those things, even if some of them were, saying grace over a meal is a type of religious ceremony giving thanks for the meal, the olympic torch ceremony is giving thanks for bringing fire to man kind. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
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2010/5/31 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com: together under a single banner. Buildings/temples and other places of worship still exist from these religions, like ancient Greek and Roman temples, pyramids in Egypt and south America, Stone Henge in the UK and native scared sites in various countries from various primitive cultures. actually I wouldn't consider the pyramids a place_of_worship in the first place (for this purpose there have been temples in Egypt as well). What about man_made=mausoleum? Cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] religion
On 31 May 2010 22:46, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: actually I wouldn't consider the pyramids a place_of_worship in the first place (for this purpose there have been temples in Egypt as well). What about man_made=mausoleum? I should have been clear that I was just talking about places of worship but religious locations in general. But Liz's point still stands, dumping all the various cultural religious identities under the pagan or even neo-pagan banner seems wrong to me, when there was and still is a lot of diversity both past and present in belief systems. If we're going to do that, we might as well dump the christians, jews and muslims under the banner of religion=abrahamic, since it would be effectively the same thing. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
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2010/5/30 Liz ed...@billiau.net: If Neopaganism is what is meant, then why wasn't it used? +1 I also think that neopagan is closer to what is probably meant and avoid confusion with the christian point of view of seeing all non-christians as pagans. cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
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On 31 May 2010 08:36, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: I also think that neopagan is closer to what is probably meant and avoid confusion with the christian point of view of seeing all non-christians as pagans. The dictionary definition of pagan is closer to what Liz wrote, paganism is any religions that isn't based on Abraham with a single god (eg Christian, Jewish and Muslim). Even though many past religions may no longer be practiced, I don't think it's a good idea to lump non-Abrahamic monotheistic religions together under a single banner. Buildings/temples and other places of worship still exist from these religions, like ancient Greek and Roman temples, pyramids in Egypt and south America, Stone Henge in the UK and native scared sites in various countries from various primitive cultures. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] religion
On 29 May 2010 18:57, Cartinus carti...@xs4all.nl wrote: By your reasoning we should not use religion=christian with denomination= either, but put whatever is in denomination= into religion=. That actually makes sense to some extent, there is various branches of christianity that differ considerable from each other, similar to how judaism differs from christianity even though they had the same beginning. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] religion
On Sat, 29 May 2010, Cartinus wrote: By your reasoning we should not use religion=christian with denomination= either, but put whatever is in denomination= into religion=. No, a major belief system has subcategories. that's not a problem but I don't think that the items grouped as pagan are subcategories of a major belief system called 'pagan The other extreme is to classify the three Abrahamic religions as abrahamic, then christian, judaism, islam ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] religion
On Sat, 29 May 2010, Serge Wroclawski wrote: On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 5:17 AM, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: No, a major belief system has subcategories. that's not a problem but I don't think that the items grouped as pagan are subcategories of a major belief system called 'pagan This argument not withstanding, the initial issue you brought up seems a non-issue, as the term Pagan is used in the sense that Cartinus illustrated, as shorthand for NeoPaganism, rather than as as a classification for any non-Jewish/Chritian/Islamic religion. So can we end this thread? - Serge If Neopaganism is what is meant, then why wasn't it used? Neopaganism as an overall term could meet Roy's standards of verifiability. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] religion
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 8:42 AM, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: Neopaganism as an overall term could meet Roy's standards of verifiability. Religion and verifiability do not belong in the same thread :P ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] religion
On 30 May 2010 12:30, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 8:42 AM, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: Neopaganism as an overall term could meet Roy's standards of verifiability. Religion and verifiability do not belong in the same thread :P Since when does tagging things on the ground require faith? :P ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
