date:20150331

[Tails-dev] [RFC] Encoding in Git the APT suites to use for building an ISO

2015-03-31 Thread intrigeri

Hi,

tl;dr: have a look at stable..feature/8654-encode-apt-suite-in-git, to
make sure what I have in mind doesn't feel crazy to you.

In particular, I'd love it if bertagaz and anonym had a good look at
it -- I guess they'll at the very least highlight some minor flaws...
and hopefully no major ones.

This is about https://labs.riseup.net/code/issues/8654, that I had to
postpone to the 1.4 milestone in order to keep some sanity last week.

The current rationale and various implementation notes can be found on
https://tails.boum.org/blueprint/encode_APT_suite_in_Git/

The current design is slightly different from what's in the ticket.
It is described in contribute/APT_repository, in the
feature/8654-encode-apt-suite-in-git branch. In that branch, I've also
adjusted various affected pieces of contributor documentation.

Note that I probably won't wait for feedback before I start updating
the automated tests we have for this sub-system tomorrow, and perhaps
even before I start actually implementing the new design. I'll rush
this a bit, not only because I want to go on working on this while
I have the problem space in my mind (it takes quite some time to
context-switch to this topic), but also because I suspect that I'll
find flaws in the design more quickly this way. Still, I'm happy to
take feedback :)

Cheers,
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Re: [Tails-dev] underlay for UX or blueprints

2015-03-31 Thread intrigeri

Alan wrote (31 Mar 2015 09:51:32 GMT) :
>> * An entirely different ikiwiki at https://blueprints.tails.b.o/.
> [...]
> We would then push files related to a blueprint, even big ones there?

I've no idea.

On the one hand, I see value in putting such "big" files in the same
VCS as the blueprint they're about.

On the other hand, it would be good to keep that new repo at least
moderately usable for a few years, so perhaps "big" should be
specified more clearly, and "too big files" should instead go
$somewhere_else :)

Cheers,
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Re: [Tails-dev] underlay for UX or blueprints

2015-03-31 Thread Alan

Hi,

intrigeri  wrote:
> Perhaps we should instead have:
> 
> * An entirely different ikiwiki at https://blueprints.tails.b.o/.
>   I believe it would fulfill the needs you described, without the most
>   important drawbacks identified above. Also, it may allow us to fully
>   disable the web interface on our website, which I've been longing
>   for since years.
> 
We would then push files related to a blueprint, even big ones there?

Cheers
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[Tails-dev] [review'n'merge: 1.4] bugfix/9138-chroot-browser-camouflage

2015-03-31 Thread anonym

Hi,

Please review'n'merge into stable and devel.

Cheers!
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Re: [Tails-dev] GUI for encrypted volumes from LUKS/TrueCrypt container files

2015-03-31 Thread sajolida

Jasper:
> On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 12:40:07 +
> sajolida  wrote:
> 
>> intrigeri:
>>> Jasper wrote (19 Mar 2015 23:46:09 GMT) :
 right now you only (graphically) support luks partitions, not
 luks containers.
>>>
>>> I've not checked in Tails/Wheezy, but FYI Jessie's GNOME Disks has
>>> an "Attach disk image" function.
>>
>> Thanks for sharing your concerns regarding partitions vs containers. I
>> think that they make a lot of sense and I didn't think about that in
>> this way before.
>>
>> Still, I would need to mature that idea in my head before being sure
>> that this is a desirable feature in the context of Tails.
>>
>> Because, for example, using containers imply have other unencrypted
>> data on the same partition, right? So that would probably encourage
>> mixing up data from different identities on the same disk. Then this
>> data would be equally available to Tails (and its possible targeted
>> attacks) and could deanonymise you. Of course, you can also do that
>> with LUKS partitions... but what I want to say is that your idea that
>> containers makes it easier to manipulate encrypted files for the user
>> might actually make things more complicated conceptually in the
>> context of Tails.
> 
> thank you for clarifying the conceptual approach of Tails in regard to
> persistence. I agree that providing the least possible amount of
> information in case of a successful attack is the only sane way if you
> consider the giant target that Tails paints on its back. as you said,
> the tradeoff is the same with partitions .. I read your instructions on
> using/creating encrypted volumes but should have also read the explicit
> warnings to be found in the instructions on persistence. what about
> having a link to those warnings from the using/creating encrypted
> volumes page as well?

Sure, the relevant parts would be:

* Storing sensitive documents
* Opening the persistent volume from other operating systems

I'll create a ticket for that.

> I have to admit, the only usecase I evaluated Tails for might be a bit
> specific: secure communication between a lawyer friend of mine and some
> of his clients. he thought about giving them Tails on a usb-stick
> preconfigured with pgp and otr messaging. obviously working with
> documents that will deanonymise you is needed in this case. probably a
> clean separation between the communication layer and the workspace
> using a preconfigured whonix environment will be a approach more suited
> for this usecase. thankfully computers are a lot less expensive these
> days..

I think that Tails with a preconfigured persistence would work fine in
the case as well. They can store their sensitive documents in the
persistent volume. The only thing they should be careful about is to not
mix other documents from other identities or facets of their lives in
there, and not open the persistent volume from another operating system.

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Re: [Tails-dev] Fw: schneier.com comments

2015-03-31 Thread Tobias Frei

Hi bert,

thank you very much for the brief explanation. It makes me sad that some
people try to make users afraid of using Tails, and it makes me very happy
to see that the developers of my favorite USB operating system confront
this scaremongering bravely. ^.^

Best regards,
Tobias Frei

On Tue, Mar 31, 2015, 12:11 bertagaz  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 06:27:43AM +, goupille wrote:
> >
> > Hi!
> >
> > a user send us that...
> >
> > cheers.
> >
> > Begin forwarded message:
> > FYI from last 100 comments @ Schneier.com:
>
> This is FUD someone is spreading since some time on the schneier website
> comments. She didn't read the warning on top of the
> tails-autotest-remote-shell script probably:
>
> # ATTENTION: Yes, this can be used as a backdoor, but only for an
> # adversary with access to you *physical* serial port, which means
> # that you are screwed any way.
>
> Whisperback send *encrypted* messages to us through hidden services. If
> someone
> is able to change its behavior, is that she is root on your machine and
> thus
> you have other problems.
>
> The same apply for the do_not_ever_run_me script.
>
> > I don't know what I'm speaking about, I've just read the script name.
> >
> > You are warned.
>
> Would be a more correct quote rather. :)
>
> bert.
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[Tails-dev] Jenkins build is back to normal : build_Tails_ISO_experimental #2158

2015-03-31 Thread tails-sysadmins

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[Tails-dev] Jenkins build is back to normal : build_Tails_ISO_stable #324

2015-03-31 Thread tails-sysadmins

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Re: [Tails-dev] Fw: schneier.com comments

2015-03-31 Thread bertagaz

Hi,

On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 06:27:43AM +, goupille wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> 
> a user send us that...
> 
> cheers.
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> FYI from last 100 comments @ Schneier.com:

This is FUD someone is spreading since some time on the schneier website
comments. She didn't read the warning on top of the
tails-autotest-remote-shell script probably:

# ATTENTION: Yes, this can be used as a backdoor, but only for an
# adversary with access to you *physical* serial port, which means
# that you are screwed any way.

Whisperback send *encrypted* messages to us through hidden services. If someone
is able to change its behavior, is that she is root on your machine and thus
you have other problems.

The same apply for the do_not_ever_run_me script.

> I don't know what I'm speaking about, I've just read the script name.
>
> You are warned.

Would be a more correct quote rather. :)

bert.
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[Tails-dev] Build failed in Jenkins: build_Tails_ISO_stable #323

2015-03-31 Thread tails-sysadmins

See 

Changes:

[anonym] Revert "Remove test that has been automated."

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[Tails-dev] Build failed in Jenkins: build_Tails_ISO_stable #322

2015-03-31 Thread tails-sysadmins

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Changes:

[intrigeri] Fix typo.

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[Tails-dev] another patch

2015-03-31 Thread goupille

Hi !

next time I'll make sure I commited *everything* before making the patch...

cheers.
From fe1fc658907b80aa660752a2ef339d671400b0cd Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Debian Live user 
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2015 07:06:45 +
Subject: [PATCH] adding macbook air 5,2 to the problematic shutdown list

---
 wiki/src/support/known_issues.mdwn |1 +
 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+)

diff --git a/wiki/src/support/known_issues.mdwn b/wiki/src/support/known_issues.mdwn
index 3c3c4e0..8b22d51 100644
--- a/wiki/src/support/known_issues.mdwn
+++ b/wiki/src/support/known_issues.mdwn
@@ -291,6 +291,7 @@ This issue has been reported on the following hardware:

   - Apple when booting from a USB stick:
 - MacBook Air 5,1
+- MacBook Air 5,2 (using a device installed with Tails Installer)
 - MacBook Pro 7,1, 13-inch mid 2010
 - MacBook Pro 9,2, 13-inch mid 2012
 - MacBook Pro 8,1, 13-inch late 2011
-- 
1.7.10.4

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