Re: [Tails-dev] Release schedule for Tails 3.13
intrigeri: > Hi Georg, > > Georg Koppen: >> Don't wait on us here for Tor Browser 8.5. The current plan is to have >> the release, which is scheduled for March 19, be a "normal" 8.0.x >> release and getting 8.5 out end of March. >> However, this is mainly bound to having the Android part in shape in >> time, because 8.5 will be the first major release with Android >> support. Thus, it might happen that we need to postpone 8.5 a little >> further into April. > > OK, thanks a lot for the update! I totally missed that but I have > quite some backlog reading to do on Tor Browser team meeting minutes. > > I'll update our release schedule and other plans accordingly. > This relaxes me a bit regarding #27466, #26553, and #28044 > (Tor bugs, not Tails tickets). No worries about those. We think we don't get those bugs into a stable release shape for 8.5. They will be 9.0 material if at all. The Tor Launcher integration (#28044) is planned for 9.0a1 which likely will ship in April. I am not sure about the other two bugs yet. > Does this mean that the first 8.5.x release that has *no* > corresponding 8.0.x will be the 2019-05-14 one? I am not sure exactly what you mean but let me come up with my best guess. :) Assuming there are _no_ emergency releases in between, then the release planned for 2019-05-14 will be the first stable release picking up Firefox security bug fixes that will be based on 8.5 while the corresponding alpha will be 9.0aX. >> That said, also keep in mind that Pwn2Own will be between March 20-22 >> and Firefox is one of the targets. The actual schedule of exploit >> attempts is usually revealed at the beginning of the week, so not sure >> yet when a potential emergency release would need to happen (if at all). > > I wish Mozilla made it so they have a scheduled release *after* > Pwn2Own instead of a couple days before… anyway, thanks, that's > definitely something we should keep in mind. Added to our calendar and > to our checklist for building release management schedules, so we rely > a bit less on you to remind us of such important things :) No worries, but it's always better having more eyes on this. Re: Mozilla's release schedule. Yes, that was my first thought as well and I was actually about to suggest to Mozilla to postpone that planned release until after Pwn2Own. But I think from Mozilla's side it actually makes sense to *not* have them together. That way they can have a meaningful QA period for all the changes affecting the new releases before Pwn2Own (remember they build already a whole week before releasing) and get them out under normal conditions to be able to just focus on the security bugs found at Pwn2Own and act quickly later on. Georg signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://www.autistici.org/mailman/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
Re: [Tails-dev] Release schedule for Tails 3.13
Hi Georg, Georg Koppen: > Don't wait on us here for Tor Browser 8.5. The current plan is to have > the release, which is scheduled for March 19, be a "normal" 8.0.x > release and getting 8.5 out end of March. > However, this is mainly bound to having the Android part in shape in > time, because 8.5 will be the first major release with Android > support. Thus, it might happen that we need to postpone 8.5 a little > further into April. OK, thanks a lot for the update! I totally missed that but I have quite some backlog reading to do on Tor Browser team meeting minutes. I'll update our release schedule and other plans accordingly. This relaxes me a bit regarding #27466, #26553, and #28044 (Tor bugs, not Tails tickets). Does this mean that the first 8.5.x release that has *no* corresponding 8.0.x will be the 2019-05-14 one? > That said, also keep in mind that Pwn2Own will be between March 20-22 > and Firefox is one of the targets. The actual schedule of exploit > attempts is usually revealed at the beginning of the week, so not sure > yet when a potential emergency release would need to happen (if at all). I wish Mozilla made it so they have a scheduled release *after* Pwn2Own instead of a couple days before… anyway, thanks, that's definitely something we should keep in mind. Added to our calendar and to our checklist for building release management schedules, so we rely a bit less on you to remind us of such important things :) Cheers, -- intrigeri ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://www.autistici.org/mailman/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
Re: [Tails-dev] Release schedule for Tails 3.13
intrigeri:
> Hi,
>
> I'll be the release manager for Tails 3.13 up to, and including, the
> release of 3.13~rc1. Then someone else, likely kibi, will take over
> until 3.13 final is out.
>
> This release will be a hybrid bugfix/major release:
>
> - It'll be major in the sense that it will upgrade Tor Browser to
>8.5, which will include major changes.
>
> - It won't be major in the sense that we may lack time to prepare and
>review major other changes in time for the freeze. We might also
>decide to stick to the frozen APT snapshots used by 3.12.
>
> So please base on the *stable* branch any work targeted at 3.13.
>
> If a Tor Browser 8.5 beta is ready and integrated into Tails
> by then:
>
> - March 8: build and upload Tails 3.13~rc1
> - March 9: test and release Tails 3.13~rc1
>
> Otherwise, we may have to skip the RC and instead send a call
> for testing later, for an unofficial nightly built image.
>
> And then, in any case:
>
> - March 18: build and upload Tails 3.13
> - March 19: test and release Tails 3.13
>
> Anyone who's part of our internal QA process ("manual test suite"),
> please let me know if you're available on March 9 to test the RC,
> and/or on March 19 to test the final release. Thanks in advance!
Don't wait on us here for Tor Browser 8.5. The current plan is to have
the release, which is scheduled for March 19, be a "normal" 8.0.x
release and getting 8.5 out end of March. However, this is mainly bound
to having the Android part in shape in time, because 8.5 will be the
first major release with Android support. Thus, it might happen that we
need to postpone 8.5 a little further into April.
That said, also keep in mind that Pwn2Own will be between March 20-22
and Firefox is one of the targets. The actual schedule of exploit
attempts is usually revealed at the beginning of the week, so not sure
yet when a potential emergency release would need to happen (if at all).
Georg
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[Tails-dev] Release schedule for Tails 3.13
Hi,
I'll be the release manager for Tails 3.13 up to, and including, the
release of 3.13~rc1. Then someone else, likely kibi, will take over
until 3.13 final is out.
This release will be a hybrid bugfix/major release:
- It'll be major in the sense that it will upgrade Tor Browser to
8.5, which will include major changes.
- It won't be major in the sense that we may lack time to prepare and
review major other changes in time for the freeze. We might also
decide to stick to the frozen APT snapshots used by 3.12.
So please base on the *stable* branch any work targeted at 3.13.
If a Tor Browser 8.5 beta is ready and integrated into Tails
by then:
- March 8: build and upload Tails 3.13~rc1
- March 9: test and release Tails 3.13~rc1
Otherwise, we may have to skip the RC and instead send a call
for testing later, for an unofficial nightly built image.
And then, in any case:
- March 18: build and upload Tails 3.13
- March 19: test and release Tails 3.13
Anyone who's part of our internal QA process ("manual test suite"),
please let me know if you're available on March 9 to test the RC,
and/or on March 19 to test the final release. Thanks in advance!
Cheers,
--
intrigeri
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