Re: [Tails-dev] Suggestion for added package: paperkey

2014-12-18 Thread intrigeri
Hi,

Daniel Kraft wrote (17 Dec 2014 19:29:03 GMT) :
 I would like to suggest adding paperkey (as in the Debian package
 repository) to Tails.  This is a tool to export the raw secret part of
 a GPG key, for instance, to back it up on a paper print-out.

First of all, thanks for the suggestion!

Given this tool seems to be CLI-only, and meant to be rarely used, at
first glance it doesn't seem appropriate to be installed by default,
and instead advanced users can install it themselves whenever they
need it. OTOH:

  * the manage an offline OpenPGP key with Tails use case would be
improved if one could use this tool out-of-the-box, without
needing to connect to the Internet and have APT download and
install it;
  * the installed package takes a few dozens kB.

Now, this would fit into the use case we've been asked by the
cleanroom (Cc'd) folks to include apt-offline for. BTW, it's been
waiting for their feedback since 4 months:
https://labs.riseup.net/code/issues/7208

Hans-Christoph: it would be super useful if you told us what's the
list of additional packages cleanroom needs, that are not provided in
Tails yet. Then, we can decide whether we want to install all of them
by default, or rely on apt-offline instead. Then, I suspect we'll want
to do just the same for paperkey.

Cheers,
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Re: [Tails-dev] Suggestion for added package: paperkey

2014-12-18 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

I haven't touched it in a while since I got stuck while using Tails/squeeze
for the uses we need it for.  I have submitted a proposal for a project that
includes a little work on cleanroom, so I do hope to get back to it in a
focused way in the not-too-distant future.

For the core use of creating a master GnuPG key and generating subkeys, I
think that TAILS already has everything there.  opensc is included, right?
opensc will probably need to be backported to wheezy then included since
they've recently made big strides in making it work a lot easier.

For all of the uses that we have for cleanroom, I'm guessing there will be far
too many packages to include.  For example, we want to do Android signing key
management, so that means Java keyrings, so that means default-jdk. But I'll
keep this question in mind when I get back into it.

.hc

intrigeri:
 Hi,
 
 Daniel Kraft wrote (17 Dec 2014 19:29:03 GMT) :
 I would like to suggest adding paperkey (as in the Debian package
 repository) to Tails.  This is a tool to export the raw secret part of
 a GPG key, for instance, to back it up on a paper print-out.
 
 First of all, thanks for the suggestion!
 
 Given this tool seems to be CLI-only, and meant to be rarely used, at
 first glance it doesn't seem appropriate to be installed by default,
 and instead advanced users can install it themselves whenever they
 need it. OTOH:
 
   * the manage an offline OpenPGP key with Tails use case would be
 improved if one could use this tool out-of-the-box, without
 needing to connect to the Internet and have APT download and
 install it;
   * the installed package takes a few dozens kB.
 
 Now, this would fit into the use case we've been asked by the
 cleanroom (Cc'd) folks to include apt-offline for. BTW, it's been
 waiting for their feedback since 4 months:
 https://labs.riseup.net/code/issues/7208
 
 Hans-Christoph: it would be super useful if you told us what's the
 list of additional packages cleanroom needs, that are not provided in
 Tails yet. Then, we can decide whether we want to install all of them
 by default, or rely on apt-offline instead. Then, I suspect we'll want
 to do just the same for paperkey.
 
 Cheers,
 

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[Tails-dev] Suggestion for added package: paperkey

2014-12-17 Thread Daniel Kraft
Hi!

I would like to suggest adding paperkey (as in the Debian package
repository) to Tails.  This is a tool to export the raw secret part of
a GPG key, for instance, to back it up on a paper print-out.

I've just used Tails to create an offline GPG identity key.  It would be
handy (and, IMHO, fit to the principles of Tails) to have paperkey
installed in order to create a minimal backup of the key, all without
ever connecting to the internet.

(In my case, I've downloaded the .deb package separately and installed
it within Tails to do the backup, but it would be much easier to have
paperkey preinstalled.)

What do you think?

Yours,
Daniel

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