Re: [GTALUG] Bitkeeper again open source...

2016-05-10 Thread Lennart Sorensen 
On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 02:48:53PM -0400, Christopher Browne wrote:
> I guess I left out my favorite would-be best-ever news article title...
> 
> "Arch Duke Ferdinand Found Alive: WWI A Mistake!!!"
> 
> Bitkeeper found alive... Git a misteak ;-)
> 
> It is interesting how much SCM has flowered since; I would not regard it as
> a mistake that people have tried various things, and had some decent
> successes.

Well CVS was awful to use, but it helped a lot of people and was better
than nothing.  At least slightly.  In some cases.

Subversion may very well have been a mistake, but CVS was pretty awful,
and git did not exist yet.

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Re: [GTALUG] Bitkeeper again open source...

2016-05-10 Thread Christopher Browne 
On 10 May 2016 at 13:56, Lennart Sorensen 
wrote:

> On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 01:37:43PM -0400, Christopher Browne wrote:
> > Git now a mistake???
>
> And git is great, so it is not a mistake.
>

I guess I left out my favorite would-be best-ever news article title...

"Arch Duke Ferdinand Found Alive: WWI A Mistake!!!"

Bitkeeper found alive... Git a misteak ;-)

It is interesting how much SCM has flowered since; I would not regard it as
a mistake that people have tried various things, and had some decent
successes.
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Re: [GTALUG] Bitkeeper again open source...

2016-05-10 Thread Lennart Sorensen 
On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 01:37:43PM -0400, Christopher Browne wrote:
> Git now a mistake???

And git is great, so it is not a mistake.

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Re: [GTALUG] Bitkeeper again open source...

2016-05-10 Thread Lennart Sorensen 
On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 01:37:43PM -0400, Christopher Browne wrote:
> https://www.bitkeeper.org/
> 
> Git now a mistake???
> 
> There's a gigantic dose of "nothing mentioned about why it got taken
> private way back when"...

Well bitkeeper was never open source.  Bit keeper used to allow free
use of bitkeeper by open source projects, but some people did not like
the idea of their code revision history being stuck in some proprietary
vendor's product so they reverse engineered the data format and published
tools to access it, and bitkeeper had a hissyfit and took away free
use entirely.

I suppose with the popularity of git these days, they have a lot less
business left, so going open source and relying on selling support
services might be the only way to stay relevant.  It does have some
features git doesn't have (and vice versa of course).

So going open source is totally new for them.  The past was about use
of the closed source code for free by open source projects.  Not the
same thing.

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[GTALUG] [GTALUG-Announce] GTALUG Meeting Tonight at 7:30pm

2016-05-10 Thread Myles Braithwaite 


# Round Table Q Session

A Round Table Q Session is where we take questions from the
audience, and the audience discusses and attempts to answer those
questions from their own knowledge. It's a great way to meet fellow
members of our community and discover the skill sets we each bring to
the table.

## Location

George Vari Engineering and Computing Centre
245 Church Street, Room 203
Ryerson University





## Schedule

* 6:00 pm - Before each meeting a group of GTALUGers will be meeting
at Thai on Yonge (370 Yonge Street) for dinner.
* 7:30 pm - Meeting and presentation.
* 9:00 pm - After each meeting a group of GTALUGers move to the The
Imperial Pub (54 Dundas St East) for refreshments and more
socializing.

# Code of Conduct

We want a productive happy community that can welcome new ideas,
improve every process every year, and foster collaboration between
individuals with differing needs, interests and skills.

We gain strength from diversity, and actively seek participation from
those who enhance it. This code of conduct exists to ensure that
diverse groups collaborate to mutual advantage and enjoyment. We will
challenge prejudice that could jeopardize the participation of any
person in the community.

The Code of Conduct governs how we behave in public or in private
whenever the Linux community will be judged by our actions. We expect
it to be honored by everyone who represents the community officially
or informally, claims affiliation, or participates directly. It
applies to activities online or offline.

We invite anybody to participate. Our community is open.

Please read more about the GTALUG Code of Conduct here:
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If you have any questions, comments, or concerns about the GTALUG Code
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Re: [GTALUG] dinner before May meeting

2016-05-10 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier 


So far, it looks like Thai on Yonge wins

Address: second floor, 370 Yonge Street (South of Gerrard St.)
suggested by Bob Jonkman


Backup:

z-teca Mexican

Address: 66 Gerrard St. E
Burritos etc.
visited in pre-historic times




| From: William Park 

| Is there Wendy's nearby?



| From: D. Hugh Redelmeier 

| I will make an opening suggestion: Thai on Yonge.  Bob Jonkman suggested 
| this as we walked past it on Tuesday.  The reviews also look good to me.



| From cbbro...@gmail.com Thu May  5 18:17:07 2016

| Thai on Yonge sounds like a fine idea to me; I'm quite happy to go along with
| anything that occurs; it seems unlikely to be a disaster, and could be tasty.
| 
| Having z-Teca as a backup, which is very near to our destination, seems like
| a good idea, particularly as I'm pretty sure it's still around, and it's
| good to consider testing such again.



| From: Myles Braithwaite 

| I'm interested in Basil Box. Also Taco 101 looks cool but has no seating
| (might be a good summer time option as we could wheat outside in Ryerson's
| courtyard.
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