Re: [GTALUG] ot: headphone jac replacement?
Okay Howard. Explain how you would tell these apart if blind? What does your engineering background, since you reference here, teach you about working via touch alone? That is my situation here. I must be able to safely apply this, without seeing its shade onto an extremely small space. Or, I can take this scanner and this ring to a business and pay someone to replace the ring. if so, where? Karen On Tue, 20 Apr 2021, Howard Gibson via talk wrote: Karen, I am a mechanical designer and drafter. I am an engineering technologist, certified by OACETT (http://oacett.org). Ask about threadlockers in the hardware store. The really popular one is Loctite 242, which is a lubricating, medium strength threadlocker which is blue in colour. This is very nice stuff for mechanical assembly. The lubrication gives you better control over tightening torque, which is really cool if you are using a torque wrench. :) Alternate threadlockers can be sealing or wicking. Wicking might be very nice for you, but you probably won't find this stuff in a regular store. Most threadlockers are based on Military Standard MIL-S-46163A, and several manufacturers make equivalent, compliant stuff. The colours are part of the standard. Purple is low strength, blue is medium, and red is high strength. The blue, medium strength is good. The red, high strength is difficult to remove without damaging things. The regular Loctite threadlockers can be very nasty around plastic electronics like connectors and PCB components. Be very, very careful to apply it only to metal components. I have had some nasty experiences with this. Consider usng Krazy glue, and wicking it into the thread. If you don't glue your fingers together, you should be fine. Look for a thin cyanoacrylate glue. The thick, goopy stuff won't wick. On Tue, 20 Apr 2021 23:30:21 -0400 (EDT) Karen Lewellen via talk wrote: i feel better that i can place some of the locktite on the ring, then put it into position. Will seek it at walmart or Home depot. On Tue, 20 Apr 2021, James Knott via talk wrote: On 2021-04-20 10:31 p.m., Karen Lewellen via talk wrote: I have the ring. I even have more than one. so you put this liquid on the ring and it sticks in place? Where do I get this product? Typically hardware stores, etc.. Walmart has it. --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk -- Howard Gibson hgib...@eol.ca jhowardgib...@gmail.com http://home.eol.ca/~hgibson --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] ot: headphone jac replacement?
What is thread locker? Keep in mind i am working via touch alone here. i do have the ring as expressed, so just where would thread locker go, and from where is it obtained? Karen On Tue, 20 Apr 2021, Don Tai wrote: In order to screw on the ring, some of the threads from the audio jack must be exposed. Otherwise the ring would not be able to grab on and tighten. You don't need too many threads. Put the thread locker on those few threads, reinstall the ring and you should be good. Or put the thread locker on the inside of the ring. Without the ring, the audio jack may have rotated and might have interfered with the audio wires, possibly kinking them. Don On Tue, 20 Apr 2021 at 23:23, Karen Lewellen wrote: The thing is that the audio jack threads are not exposed. So, I would have to put this liquid in the case of the machine..which does not seem safe under the circumstances. Sorry about the misspellings, the synthesizer I am using is not fully functional. The ring cannot simply be placed back and screwed down? i have no idea how I would use locktite if the threads must be reached. ---thread cut for brevity --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] ot: headphone jac replacement?
Karen, I am a mechanical designer and drafter. I am an engineering technologist, certified by OACETT (http://oacett.org). Ask about threadlockers in the hardware store. The really popular one is Loctite 242, which is a lubricating, medium strength threadlocker which is blue in colour. This is very nice stuff for mechanical assembly. The lubrication gives you better control over tightening torque, which is really cool if you are using a torque wrench. :) Alternate threadlockers can be sealing or wicking. Wicking might be very nice for you, but you probably won't find this stuff in a regular store. Most threadlockers are based on Military Standard MIL-S-46163A, and several manufacturers make equivalent, compliant stuff. The colours are part of the standard. Purple is low strength, blue is medium, and red is high strength. The blue, medium strength is good. The red, high strength is difficult to remove without damaging things. The regular Loctite threadlockers can be very nasty around plastic electronics like connectors and PCB components. Be very, very careful to apply it only to metal components. I have had some nasty experiences with this. Consider usng Krazy glue, and wicking it into the thread. If you don't glue your fingers together, you should be fine. Look for a thin cyanoacrylate glue. The thick, goopy stuff won't wick. On Tue, 20 Apr 2021 23:30:21 -0400 (EDT) Karen Lewellen via talk wrote: > i feel better that i can place some of the locktite on the ring, then put > it into position. > Will seek it at walmart or Home depot. > > > > On Tue, 20 Apr 2021, James Knott via talk wrote: > > > On 2021-04-20 10:31 p.m., Karen Lewellen via talk wrote: > >> I have the ring. > >> I even have more than one. > >> so you put this liquid on the ring and it sticks in place? > >> Where do I get this product? > > > > Typically hardware stores, etc.. Walmart has it. > > --- > > Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org > > Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk > > > > -- Howard Gibson hgib...@eol.ca jhowardgib...@gmail.com http://home.eol.ca/~hgibson --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] ot: headphone jac replacement?
In order to screw on the ring, some of the threads from the audio jack must be exposed. Otherwise the ring would not be able to grab on and tighten. You don't need too many threads. Put the thread locker on those few threads, reinstall the ring and you should be good. Or put the thread locker on the inside of the ring. Without the ring, the audio jack may have rotated and might have interfered with the audio wires, possibly kinking them. Don On Tue, 20 Apr 2021 at 23:23, Karen Lewellen wrote: > The thing is that the audio jack threads are not exposed. > So, I would have to put this liquid in the case of the machine..which does > not seem safe under the circumstances. > Sorry about the misspellings, the synthesizer I am using is not fully > functional. > The ring cannot simply be placed back and screwed down? > i have no idea how I would use locktite if the threads must be reached. > > ---thread cut for brevity --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] ot: headphone jac replacement?
i feel better that i can place some of the locktite on the ring, then put it into position. Will seek it at walmart or Home depot. On Tue, 20 Apr 2021, James Knott via talk wrote: On 2021-04-20 10:31 p.m., Karen Lewellen via talk wrote: I have the ring. I even have more than one. so you put this liquid on the ring and it sticks in place? Where do I get this product? Typically hardware stores, etc.. Walmart has it. --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] ot: headphone jac replacement?
On 2021-04-20 10:31 p.m., Karen Lewellen via talk wrote: I have the ring. I even have more than one. so you put this liquid on the ring and it sticks in place? Where do I get this product? Typically hardware stores, etc.. Walmart has it. --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] ot: headphone jac replacement?
On 2021-04-20 9:38 p.m., Karen Lewellen via talk wrote: what is loosekite? Loctite is a type of adhesive that is placed on screws or nuts to keep them from loosening. You put it on after the screw or nut is tightend, so that it will not loosen. --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] ot: headphone jac replacement?
I have the ring. I even have more than one. so you put this liquid on the ring and it sticks in place? Where do I get this product? On Tue, 20 Apr 2021, Don Tai wrote: If you still have the ring you can thread it back on. Locktite is a liquid that you put on the threads, that when it dries it makes it more difficult for the ring to loosen and come off. Without the ring the 3.5mm audio jack might get pushed inside the box, which would mean you'd need to open the box back up to push it back through the hole. Do you still have the ring? The Xerox "Kurzweil Reading Edge Optical Recognition Speech Synthesizer," has a separate keyboard on the right side, with yellow and white keys. The keyboard is attached to the main unit by a curly cable. You can get someone to retighten the ring, if you still have it, and see if the stereo sound comes back. Otherwise you might need to replace the audio jack for a new one, which means opening up the box and possibly soldering. This is easier than it sounds. Don On Tue, 20 Apr 2021 at 21:39, Karen Lewellen wrote: Indeed the ring became loose, and this afternoon fell off all together. i was getting stereo just find until the ring fell off. what is loosekite? your description sounds about right if the unit has a small keypad attached to the front right. Is there anywhere I could take the unit to get the ring reconnected? Karen On Tue, 20 Apr 2021, Don Tai wrote: A 3.5mm audio jack will have a ring that screws into the cylinder part of the jack. You plug you headphones into the jack. This ring is tightened against the side cover. Has this become loose? If this has loosened, then you could use some locktite to ensure it is tight. An issue is that when the audio jack becomes loose, it might stress the 3 wires and stop working. Apart from the looseness of the jack, can you hear the left and right channel audio? Do you have a Xerox "Kurzweil Reading Edge Optical Recognition Speech Synthesizer," 1992? Don On Tue, 20 Apr 2021 at 20:33, Karen Lewellen via talk wrote: The thing about the other suggestions is that my personal experience of blindness makes some of those steps a bit risky. If I still have the external connector, its not broken, just came loose due to how much I use it, why cannot I just screw it in place again?. The port or jack is Entirely external to the machine. Its a talking scanner that looks a bit like a portable well copy machine. No idea if images exist on line but it is called the reading edge. Kare On Tue, 20 Apr 2021, William Witteman via talk wrote: In that case, you could try to repair the broken bit with something moldable like sugaru (sp?) or another moldable plastic, but I would tend to go with Don's suggestion, as those parts are generally pretty disposable. On Tue., Apr. 20, 2021, 20:15 Karen Lewellen via talk, < talk@gtalug.org> wrote: Okay, this is why I love the list. My description is clearly faulty. What I am speaking of is the circle connector into which you plug the headphone itself. as if, had I a really small hmm wrench? twisting it the other way would have kept the external port in place. The internals worked perfectly fine, I just cannot plug in the headphones because the external round connector is gone. Does that make better sense? Kare On Tue, 20 Apr 2021, Don Tai via talk wrote: A headphone jack usually has left and right channels, plus a ground, so only 3 wires. You will need to take the device cover off, determine if one of the connections is loose/cracked. If the connection is loose or cracked then you resolder the joint and you're done. Check the connection with a multimeter. If the plug is worn out you will need to unsolder the 3 connections, remove the old (may be physically attached to the board/cover, reinstall the new plug to the board/cover, resolder the 3 wires, check connectivity with a multimeter. You will need: -tools to remove the cover: screwdrivers of all sorts, pry tool, depending on the cover. it does vary a lot -soldering iron, solder -replacement 3.5mm audio plug -multimeter: to check if the soldered joint is electrically connective. That's it. Don. On Tue, 20 Apr 2021 at 19:00, Karen Lewellen via talk < talk@gtalug.org wrote: I might add during the current lock down? Here is the scoop The primary device i use as my computer's speech synthesizer source has a 3.5 inch headphone jack, which has been getting looser over the past week or so. While I had hoped to find a way to tighten it before a disconnect, that hoped was dashed this afternoon. I do have the jac, in fact I have a spare, what I am wondering though is a couple of things. first, if I want to try, or must try reattaching this myself, which tool do I need? screwdriver, or wrench?..or something else? If I want it done by someone else, for which I would happily pay even if moving the machine might be a dance, where in Toronto might I take it in for the work? In
Re: [GTALUG] ot: headphone jac replacement?
If you still have the ring you can thread it back on. Locktite is a liquid that you put on the threads, that when it dries it makes it more difficult for the ring to loosen and come off. Without the ring the 3.5mm audio jack might get pushed inside the box, which would mean you'd need to open the box back up to push it back through the hole. Do you still have the ring? The Xerox "Kurzweil Reading Edge Optical Recognition Speech Synthesizer," has a separate keyboard on the right side, with yellow and white keys. The keyboard is attached to the main unit by a curly cable. You can get someone to retighten the ring, if you still have it, and see if the stereo sound comes back. Otherwise you might need to replace the audio jack for a new one, which means opening up the box and possibly soldering. This is easier than it sounds. Don On Tue, 20 Apr 2021 at 21:39, Karen Lewellen wrote: > Indeed the ring became loose, and this afternoon fell off all together. > i was getting stereo just find until the ring fell off. > what is loosekite? > your description sounds about right if the unit has a small keypad > attached to the front right. > Is there anywhere I could take the unit to get the ring reconnected? > Karen > > > > On Tue, 20 Apr 2021, Don Tai wrote: > > > A 3.5mm audio jack will have a ring that screws into the cylinder part of > > the jack. You plug you headphones into the jack. This ring is tightened > > against the side cover. Has this become loose? If this has loosened, then > > you could use some locktite to ensure it is tight. > > > > An issue is that when the audio jack becomes loose, it might stress the 3 > > wires and stop working. Apart from the looseness of the jack, can you > hear > > the left and right channel audio? > > > > Do you have a Xerox "Kurzweil Reading Edge Optical Recognition Speech > > Synthesizer," 1992? > > > > Don > > > > On Tue, 20 Apr 2021 at 20:33, Karen Lewellen via talk > > wrote: > > > >> The thing about the other suggestions is that my personal experience of > >> blindness makes some of those steps a bit risky. > >> If I still have the external connector, its not broken, just came loose > >> due to how much I use it, why cannot I just screw it in place again?. > >> The port or jack is Entirely external to the machine. > >> Its a talking scanner that looks a bit like a portable well copy > machine. > >> No idea if images exist on line but it is called the reading edge. > >> Kare > >> > >> > >> > >> On Tue, 20 Apr 2021, William Witteman via talk wrote: > >> > >>> In that case, you could try to repair the broken bit with something > >>> moldable like sugaru (sp?) or another moldable plastic, but I would > tend > >> to > >>> go with Don's suggestion, as those parts are generally pretty > disposable. > >>> > >>> On Tue., Apr. 20, 2021, 20:15 Karen Lewellen via talk, < > talk@gtalug.org> > >>> wrote: > >>> > Okay, this is why I love the list. > My description is clearly faulty. > What I am speaking of is the circle connector into which you plug the > headphone itself. > as if, had I a really small hmm wrench? twisting it the other way > would > have kept the external port in place. > The internals worked perfectly fine, I just cannot plug in the > headphones because the external round connector is gone. > Does that make better sense? > Kare > > > > On Tue, 20 Apr 2021, Don Tai via talk wrote: > > > A headphone jack usually has left and right channels, plus a ground, > so > > only 3 wires. > > > > You will need to take the device cover off, determine if one of the > > connections is loose/cracked. If the connection is loose or cracked > >> then > > you resolder the joint and you're done. Check the connection with a > > multimeter. If the plug is worn out you will need to unsolder the 3 > > connections, remove the old (may be physically attached to the > board/cover, > > reinstall the new plug to the board/cover, resolder the 3 wires, > check > > connectivity with a multimeter. > > > > You will need: > > -tools to remove the cover: screwdrivers of all sorts, pry tool, > depending > > on the cover. it does vary a lot > > -soldering iron, solder > > -replacement 3.5mm audio plug > > -multimeter: to check if the soldered joint is electrically > connective. > > > > That's it. > > Don. > > > > On Tue, 20 Apr 2021 at 19:00, Karen Lewellen via talk < > talk@gtalug.org > >>> > > wrote: > > > >> I might add during the current lock down? > >> Here is the scoop > >> The primary device i use as my computer's speech synthesizer source > >> has > a > >> 3.5 inch headphone jack, which has been getting looser over the past > week > >> or so. > >> While I had hoped to find a way to tighten it before a disconnect, > >> that > >> hoped was dashed this afternoon. >
Re: [GTALUG] ot: headphone jac replacement?
Yes, this is the one. On Tue, 20 Apr 2021, Don Tai wrote: Xerox "Kurzweil Reading Edge Optical Recognition Speech Synthesizer," https://www.thehenryford.org/collections-and-research/digital-collections/artifact/476405/#slide=gs-464336 On Tue, 20 Apr 2021 at 20:50, Don Tai wrote: A 3.5mm audio jack will have a ring that screws into the cylinder part of the jack. You plug you headphones into the jack. This ring is tightened against the side cover. Has this become loose? If this has loosened, then you could use some locktite to ensure it is tight. An issue is that when the audio jack becomes loose, it might stress the 3 wires and stop working. Apart from the looseness of the jack, can you hear the left and right channel audio? Do you have a Xerox "Kurzweil Reading Edge Optical Recognition Speech Synthesizer," 1992? Don On Tue, 20 Apr 2021 at 20:33, Karen Lewellen via talk wrote: The thing about the other suggestions is that my personal experience of blindness makes some of those steps a bit risky. If I still have the external connector, its not broken, just came loose due to how much I use it, why cannot I just screw it in place again?. The port or jack is Entirely external to the machine. Its a talking scanner that looks a bit like a portable well copy machine. No idea if images exist on line but it is called the reading edge. Kare On Tue, 20 Apr 2021, William Witteman via talk wrote: In that case, you could try to repair the broken bit with something moldable like sugaru (sp?) or another moldable plastic, but I would tend to go with Don's suggestion, as those parts are generally pretty disposable. On Tue., Apr. 20, 2021, 20:15 Karen Lewellen via talk, Okay, this is why I love the list. My description is clearly faulty. What I am speaking of is the circle connector into which you plug the headphone itself. as if, had I a really small hmm wrench? twisting it the other way would have kept the external port in place. The internals worked perfectly fine, I just cannot plug in the headphones because the external round connector is gone. Does that make better sense? Kare On Tue, 20 Apr 2021, Don Tai via talk wrote: A headphone jack usually has left and right channels, plus a ground, so only 3 wires. You will need to take the device cover off, determine if one of the connections is loose/cracked. If the connection is loose or cracked then you resolder the joint and you're done. Check the connection with a multimeter. If the plug is worn out you will need to unsolder the 3 connections, remove the old (may be physically attached to the board/cover, reinstall the new plug to the board/cover, resolder the 3 wires, check connectivity with a multimeter. You will need: -tools to remove the cover: screwdrivers of all sorts, pry tool, depending on the cover. it does vary a lot -soldering iron, solder -replacement 3.5mm audio plug -multimeter: to check if the soldered joint is electrically connective. That's it. Don. On Tue, 20 Apr 2021 at 19:00, Karen Lewellen via talk < talk@gtalug.org> wrote: I might add during the current lock down? Here is the scoop The primary device i use as my computer's speech synthesizer source has a 3.5 inch headphone jack, which has been getting looser over the past week or so. While I had hoped to find a way to tighten it before a disconnect, that hoped was dashed this afternoon. I do have the jac, in fact I have a spare, what I am wondering though is a couple of things. first, if I want to try, or must try reattaching this myself, which tool do I need? screwdriver, or wrench?..or something else? If I want it done by someone else, for which I would happily pay even if moving the machine might be a dance, where in Toronto might I take it in for the work? In theory it is rather important, the replacement synthesizer is s slight fire risk, as its casing is broken around the plug in area for its adapter. Also, it sounds like it has a could, which may become frustrating as I use my computer rather a great deal these days. Ideas? Thanks, Karen --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] ot: headphone jac replacement?
Indeed the ring became loose, and this afternoon fell off all together. i was getting stereo just find until the ring fell off. what is loosekite? your description sounds about right if the unit has a small keypad attached to the front right. Is there anywhere I could take the unit to get the ring reconnected? Karen On Tue, 20 Apr 2021, Don Tai wrote: A 3.5mm audio jack will have a ring that screws into the cylinder part of the jack. You plug you headphones into the jack. This ring is tightened against the side cover. Has this become loose? If this has loosened, then you could use some locktite to ensure it is tight. An issue is that when the audio jack becomes loose, it might stress the 3 wires and stop working. Apart from the looseness of the jack, can you hear the left and right channel audio? Do you have a Xerox "Kurzweil Reading Edge Optical Recognition Speech Synthesizer," 1992? Don On Tue, 20 Apr 2021 at 20:33, Karen Lewellen via talk wrote: The thing about the other suggestions is that my personal experience of blindness makes some of those steps a bit risky. If I still have the external connector, its not broken, just came loose due to how much I use it, why cannot I just screw it in place again?. The port or jack is Entirely external to the machine. Its a talking scanner that looks a bit like a portable well copy machine. No idea if images exist on line but it is called the reading edge. Kare On Tue, 20 Apr 2021, William Witteman via talk wrote: In that case, you could try to repair the broken bit with something moldable like sugaru (sp?) or another moldable plastic, but I would tend to go with Don's suggestion, as those parts are generally pretty disposable. On Tue., Apr. 20, 2021, 20:15 Karen Lewellen via talk, wrote: Okay, this is why I love the list. My description is clearly faulty. What I am speaking of is the circle connector into which you plug the headphone itself. as if, had I a really small hmm wrench? twisting it the other way would have kept the external port in place. The internals worked perfectly fine, I just cannot plug in the headphones because the external round connector is gone. Does that make better sense? Kare On Tue, 20 Apr 2021, Don Tai via talk wrote: A headphone jack usually has left and right channels, plus a ground, so only 3 wires. You will need to take the device cover off, determine if one of the connections is loose/cracked. If the connection is loose or cracked then you resolder the joint and you're done. Check the connection with a multimeter. If the plug is worn out you will need to unsolder the 3 connections, remove the old (may be physically attached to the board/cover, reinstall the new plug to the board/cover, resolder the 3 wires, check connectivity with a multimeter. You will need: -tools to remove the cover: screwdrivers of all sorts, pry tool, depending on the cover. it does vary a lot -soldering iron, solder -replacement 3.5mm audio plug -multimeter: to check if the soldered joint is electrically connective. That's it. Don. On Tue, 20 Apr 2021 at 19:00, Karen Lewellen via talk wrote: I might add during the current lock down? Here is the scoop The primary device i use as my computer's speech synthesizer source has a 3.5 inch headphone jack, which has been getting looser over the past week or so. While I had hoped to find a way to tighten it before a disconnect, that hoped was dashed this afternoon. I do have the jac, in fact I have a spare, what I am wondering though is a couple of things. first, if I want to try, or must try reattaching this myself, which tool do I need? screwdriver, or wrench?..or something else? If I want it done by someone else, for which I would happily pay even if moving the machine might be a dance, where in Toronto might I take it in for the work? In theory it is rather important, the replacement synthesizer is s slight fire risk, as its casing is broken around the plug in area for its adapter. Also, it sounds like it has a could, which may become frustrating as I use my computer rather a great deal these days. Ideas? Thanks, Karen --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] ot: headphone jac replacement?
Xerox "Kurzweil Reading Edge Optical Recognition Speech Synthesizer," https://www.thehenryford.org/collections-and-research/digital-collections/artifact/476405/#slide=gs-464336 On Tue, 20 Apr 2021 at 20:50, Don Tai wrote: > A 3.5mm audio jack will have a ring that screws into the cylinder part of > the jack. You plug you headphones into the jack. This ring is tightened > against the side cover. Has this become loose? If this has loosened, then > you could use some locktite to ensure it is tight. > > An issue is that when the audio jack becomes loose, it might stress the 3 > wires and stop working. Apart from the looseness of the jack, can you hear > the left and right channel audio? > > Do you have a Xerox "Kurzweil Reading Edge Optical Recognition Speech > Synthesizer," 1992? > > Don > > On Tue, 20 Apr 2021 at 20:33, Karen Lewellen via talk > wrote: > >> The thing about the other suggestions is that my personal experience of >> blindness makes some of those steps a bit risky. >> If I still have the external connector, its not broken, just came loose >> due to how much I use it, why cannot I just screw it in place again?. >> The port or jack is Entirely external to the machine. >> Its a talking scanner that looks a bit like a portable well copy machine. >> No idea if images exist on line but it is called the reading edge. >> Kare >> >> >> >> On Tue, 20 Apr 2021, William Witteman via talk wrote: >> >> > In that case, you could try to repair the broken bit with something >> > moldable like sugaru (sp?) or another moldable plastic, but I would >> tend to >> > go with Don's suggestion, as those parts are generally pretty >> disposable. >> > >> > On Tue., Apr. 20, 2021, 20:15 Karen Lewellen via talk, > > >> > wrote: >> > >> >> Okay, this is why I love the list. >> >> My description is clearly faulty. >> >> What I am speaking of is the circle connector into which you plug the >> >> headphone itself. >> >> as if, had I a really small hmm wrench? twisting it the other way >> would >> >> have kept the external port in place. >> >> The internals worked perfectly fine, I just cannot plug in the >> >> headphones because the external round connector is gone. >> >> Does that make better sense? >> >> Kare >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, 20 Apr 2021, Don Tai via talk wrote: >> >> >> >>> A headphone jack usually has left and right channels, plus a ground, >> so >> >>> only 3 wires. >> >>> >> >>> You will need to take the device cover off, determine if one of the >> >>> connections is loose/cracked. If the connection is loose or cracked >> then >> >>> you resolder the joint and you're done. Check the connection with a >> >>> multimeter. If the plug is worn out you will need to unsolder the 3 >> >>> connections, remove the old (may be physically attached to the >> >> board/cover, >> >>> reinstall the new plug to the board/cover, resolder the 3 wires, check >> >>> connectivity with a multimeter. >> >>> >> >>> You will need: >> >>> -tools to remove the cover: screwdrivers of all sorts, pry tool, >> >> depending >> >>> on the cover. it does vary a lot >> >>> -soldering iron, solder >> >>> -replacement 3.5mm audio plug >> >>> -multimeter: to check if the soldered joint is electrically >> connective. >> >>> >> >>> That's it. >> >>> Don. >> >>> >> >>> On Tue, 20 Apr 2021 at 19:00, Karen Lewellen via talk < >> talk@gtalug.org> >> >>> wrote: >> >>> >> I might add during the current lock down? >> Here is the scoop >> The primary device i use as my computer's speech synthesizer source >> has >> >> a >> 3.5 inch headphone jack, which has been getting looser over the past >> >> week >> or so. >> While I had hoped to find a way to tighten it before a disconnect, >> that >> hoped was dashed this afternoon. >> I do have the jac, in fact I have a spare, what I am wondering though >> >> is a >> couple of things. >> first, if I want to try, or must try reattaching this myself, which >> >> tool >> do I need? screwdriver, or wrench?..or something else? >> If I want it done by someone else, for which I would happily pay >> even if >> moving the machine might be a dance, where in Toronto might I take >> it in >> for the work? >> In theory it is rather important, the replacement synthesizer is s >> >> slight >> fire risk, as its casing is broken around the plug in area for its >> adapter. >> Also, it sounds like it has a could, which may become frustrating as >> I >> >> use >> my computer rather a great deal these days. >> Ideas? >> Thanks, >> Karen >> >> >> --- >> Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org >> Unsubscribe from this mailing list >> https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk >> >> >>> >> >> --- >> >> Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org >> >> Unsubscribe from this mailing list >> >> https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk >> >> >> > >> --- >> Post to this mailing list
Re: [GTALUG] ot: headphone jac replacement?
A 3.5mm audio jack will have a ring that screws into the cylinder part of the jack. You plug you headphones into the jack. This ring is tightened against the side cover. Has this become loose? If this has loosened, then you could use some locktite to ensure it is tight. An issue is that when the audio jack becomes loose, it might stress the 3 wires and stop working. Apart from the looseness of the jack, can you hear the left and right channel audio? Do you have a Xerox "Kurzweil Reading Edge Optical Recognition Speech Synthesizer," 1992? Don On Tue, 20 Apr 2021 at 20:33, Karen Lewellen via talk wrote: > The thing about the other suggestions is that my personal experience of > blindness makes some of those steps a bit risky. > If I still have the external connector, its not broken, just came loose > due to how much I use it, why cannot I just screw it in place again?. > The port or jack is Entirely external to the machine. > Its a talking scanner that looks a bit like a portable well copy machine. > No idea if images exist on line but it is called the reading edge. > Kare > > > > On Tue, 20 Apr 2021, William Witteman via talk wrote: > > > In that case, you could try to repair the broken bit with something > > moldable like sugaru (sp?) or another moldable plastic, but I would tend > to > > go with Don's suggestion, as those parts are generally pretty disposable. > > > > On Tue., Apr. 20, 2021, 20:15 Karen Lewellen via talk, > > wrote: > > > >> Okay, this is why I love the list. > >> My description is clearly faulty. > >> What I am speaking of is the circle connector into which you plug the > >> headphone itself. > >> as if, had I a really small hmm wrench? twisting it the other way would > >> have kept the external port in place. > >> The internals worked perfectly fine, I just cannot plug in the > >> headphones because the external round connector is gone. > >> Does that make better sense? > >> Kare > >> > >> > >> > >> On Tue, 20 Apr 2021, Don Tai via talk wrote: > >> > >>> A headphone jack usually has left and right channels, plus a ground, so > >>> only 3 wires. > >>> > >>> You will need to take the device cover off, determine if one of the > >>> connections is loose/cracked. If the connection is loose or cracked > then > >>> you resolder the joint and you're done. Check the connection with a > >>> multimeter. If the plug is worn out you will need to unsolder the 3 > >>> connections, remove the old (may be physically attached to the > >> board/cover, > >>> reinstall the new plug to the board/cover, resolder the 3 wires, check > >>> connectivity with a multimeter. > >>> > >>> You will need: > >>> -tools to remove the cover: screwdrivers of all sorts, pry tool, > >> depending > >>> on the cover. it does vary a lot > >>> -soldering iron, solder > >>> -replacement 3.5mm audio plug > >>> -multimeter: to check if the soldered joint is electrically connective. > >>> > >>> That's it. > >>> Don. > >>> > >>> On Tue, 20 Apr 2021 at 19:00, Karen Lewellen via talk > > >>> wrote: > >>> > I might add during the current lock down? > Here is the scoop > The primary device i use as my computer's speech synthesizer source > has > >> a > 3.5 inch headphone jack, which has been getting looser over the past > >> week > or so. > While I had hoped to find a way to tighten it before a disconnect, > that > hoped was dashed this afternoon. > I do have the jac, in fact I have a spare, what I am wondering though > >> is a > couple of things. > first, if I want to try, or must try reattaching this myself, which > >> tool > do I need? screwdriver, or wrench?..or something else? > If I want it done by someone else, for which I would happily pay even > if > moving the machine might be a dance, where in Toronto might I take it > in > for the work? > In theory it is rather important, the replacement synthesizer is s > >> slight > fire risk, as its casing is broken around the plug in area for its > adapter. > Also, it sounds like it has a could, which may become frustrating as I > >> use > my computer rather a great deal these days. > Ideas? > Thanks, > Karen > > > --- > Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org > Unsubscribe from this mailing list > https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk > > >>> > >> --- > >> Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org > >> Unsubscribe from this mailing list > >> https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk > >> > > > --- > Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org > Unsubscribe from this mailing list > https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk > --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] ot: headphone jac replacement?
The thing about the other suggestions is that my personal experience of blindness makes some of those steps a bit risky. If I still have the external connector, its not broken, just came loose due to how much I use it, why cannot I just screw it in place again?. The port or jack is Entirely external to the machine. Its a talking scanner that looks a bit like a portable well copy machine. No idea if images exist on line but it is called the reading edge. Kare On Tue, 20 Apr 2021, William Witteman via talk wrote: In that case, you could try to repair the broken bit with something moldable like sugaru (sp?) or another moldable plastic, but I would tend to go with Don's suggestion, as those parts are generally pretty disposable. On Tue., Apr. 20, 2021, 20:15 Karen Lewellen via talk, wrote: Okay, this is why I love the list. My description is clearly faulty. What I am speaking of is the circle connector into which you plug the headphone itself. as if, had I a really small hmm wrench? twisting it the other way would have kept the external port in place. The internals worked perfectly fine, I just cannot plug in the headphones because the external round connector is gone. Does that make better sense? Kare On Tue, 20 Apr 2021, Don Tai via talk wrote: A headphone jack usually has left and right channels, plus a ground, so only 3 wires. You will need to take the device cover off, determine if one of the connections is loose/cracked. If the connection is loose or cracked then you resolder the joint and you're done. Check the connection with a multimeter. If the plug is worn out you will need to unsolder the 3 connections, remove the old (may be physically attached to the board/cover, reinstall the new plug to the board/cover, resolder the 3 wires, check connectivity with a multimeter. You will need: -tools to remove the cover: screwdrivers of all sorts, pry tool, depending on the cover. it does vary a lot -soldering iron, solder -replacement 3.5mm audio plug -multimeter: to check if the soldered joint is electrically connective. That's it. Don. On Tue, 20 Apr 2021 at 19:00, Karen Lewellen via talk wrote: I might add during the current lock down? Here is the scoop The primary device i use as my computer's speech synthesizer source has a 3.5 inch headphone jack, which has been getting looser over the past week or so. While I had hoped to find a way to tighten it before a disconnect, that hoped was dashed this afternoon. I do have the jac, in fact I have a spare, what I am wondering though is a couple of things. first, if I want to try, or must try reattaching this myself, which tool do I need? screwdriver, or wrench?..or something else? If I want it done by someone else, for which I would happily pay even if moving the machine might be a dance, where in Toronto might I take it in for the work? In theory it is rather important, the replacement synthesizer is s slight fire risk, as its casing is broken around the plug in area for its adapter. Also, it sounds like it has a could, which may become frustrating as I use my computer rather a great deal these days. Ideas? Thanks, Karen --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] ot: headphone jac replacement?
In that case, you could try to repair the broken bit with something moldable like sugaru (sp?) or another moldable plastic, but I would tend to go with Don's suggestion, as those parts are generally pretty disposable. On Tue., Apr. 20, 2021, 20:15 Karen Lewellen via talk, wrote: > Okay, this is why I love the list. > My description is clearly faulty. > What I am speaking of is the circle connector into which you plug the > headphone itself. > as if, had I a really small hmm wrench? twisting it the other way would > have kept the external port in place. > The internals worked perfectly fine, I just cannot plug in the > headphones because the external round connector is gone. > Does that make better sense? > Kare > > > > On Tue, 20 Apr 2021, Don Tai via talk wrote: > > > A headphone jack usually has left and right channels, plus a ground, so > > only 3 wires. > > > > You will need to take the device cover off, determine if one of the > > connections is loose/cracked. If the connection is loose or cracked then > > you resolder the joint and you're done. Check the connection with a > > multimeter. If the plug is worn out you will need to unsolder the 3 > > connections, remove the old (may be physically attached to the > board/cover, > > reinstall the new plug to the board/cover, resolder the 3 wires, check > > connectivity with a multimeter. > > > > You will need: > > -tools to remove the cover: screwdrivers of all sorts, pry tool, > depending > > on the cover. it does vary a lot > > -soldering iron, solder > > -replacement 3.5mm audio plug > > -multimeter: to check if the soldered joint is electrically connective. > > > > That's it. > > Don. > > > > On Tue, 20 Apr 2021 at 19:00, Karen Lewellen via talk > > wrote: > > > >> I might add during the current lock down? > >> Here is the scoop > >> The primary device i use as my computer's speech synthesizer source has > a > >> 3.5 inch headphone jack, which has been getting looser over the past > week > >> or so. > >> While I had hoped to find a way to tighten it before a disconnect, that > >> hoped was dashed this afternoon. > >> I do have the jac, in fact I have a spare, what I am wondering though > is a > >> couple of things. > >> first, if I want to try, or must try reattaching this myself, which > tool > >> do I need? screwdriver, or wrench?..or something else? > >> If I want it done by someone else, for which I would happily pay even if > >> moving the machine might be a dance, where in Toronto might I take it in > >> for the work? > >> In theory it is rather important, the replacement synthesizer is s > slight > >> fire risk, as its casing is broken around the plug in area for its > >> adapter. > >> Also, it sounds like it has a could, which may become frustrating as I > use > >> my computer rather a great deal these days. > >> Ideas? > >> Thanks, > >> Karen > >> > >> > >> --- > >> Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org > >> Unsubscribe from this mailing list > >> https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk > >> > > > --- > Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org > Unsubscribe from this mailing list > https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk > --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] ot: headphone jac replacement?
Okay, this is why I love the list. My description is clearly faulty. What I am speaking of is the circle connector into which you plug the headphone itself. as if, had I a really small hmm wrench? twisting it the other way would have kept the external port in place. The internals worked perfectly fine, I just cannot plug in the headphones because the external round connector is gone. Does that make better sense? Kare On Tue, 20 Apr 2021, Don Tai via talk wrote: A headphone jack usually has left and right channels, plus a ground, so only 3 wires. You will need to take the device cover off, determine if one of the connections is loose/cracked. If the connection is loose or cracked then you resolder the joint and you're done. Check the connection with a multimeter. If the plug is worn out you will need to unsolder the 3 connections, remove the old (may be physically attached to the board/cover, reinstall the new plug to the board/cover, resolder the 3 wires, check connectivity with a multimeter. You will need: -tools to remove the cover: screwdrivers of all sorts, pry tool, depending on the cover. it does vary a lot -soldering iron, solder -replacement 3.5mm audio plug -multimeter: to check if the soldered joint is electrically connective. That's it. Don. On Tue, 20 Apr 2021 at 19:00, Karen Lewellen via talk wrote: I might add during the current lock down? Here is the scoop The primary device i use as my computer's speech synthesizer source has a 3.5 inch headphone jack, which has been getting looser over the past week or so. While I had hoped to find a way to tighten it before a disconnect, that hoped was dashed this afternoon. I do have the jac, in fact I have a spare, what I am wondering though is a couple of things. first, if I want to try, or must try reattaching this myself, which tool do I need? screwdriver, or wrench?..or something else? If I want it done by someone else, for which I would happily pay even if moving the machine might be a dance, where in Toronto might I take it in for the work? In theory it is rather important, the replacement synthesizer is s slight fire risk, as its casing is broken around the plug in area for its adapter. Also, it sounds like it has a could, which may become frustrating as I use my computer rather a great deal these days. Ideas? Thanks, Karen --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] ot: headphone jac replacement?
A headphone jack usually has left and right channels, plus a ground, so only 3 wires. You will need to take the device cover off, determine if one of the connections is loose/cracked. If the connection is loose or cracked then you resolder the joint and you're done. Check the connection with a multimeter. If the plug is worn out you will need to unsolder the 3 connections, remove the old (may be physically attached to the board/cover, reinstall the new plug to the board/cover, resolder the 3 wires, check connectivity with a multimeter. You will need: -tools to remove the cover: screwdrivers of all sorts, pry tool, depending on the cover. it does vary a lot -soldering iron, solder -replacement 3.5mm audio plug -multimeter: to check if the soldered joint is electrically connective. That's it. Don. On Tue, 20 Apr 2021 at 19:00, Karen Lewellen via talk wrote: > I might add during the current lock down? > Here is the scoop > The primary device i use as my computer's speech synthesizer source has a > 3.5 inch headphone jack, which has been getting looser over the past week > or so. > While I had hoped to find a way to tighten it before a disconnect, that > hoped was dashed this afternoon. > I do have the jac, in fact I have a spare, what I am wondering though is a > couple of things. > first, if I want to try, or must try reattaching this myself, which tool > do I need? screwdriver, or wrench?..or something else? > If I want it done by someone else, for which I would happily pay even if > moving the machine might be a dance, where in Toronto might I take it in > for the work? > In theory it is rather important, the replacement synthesizer is s slight > fire risk, as its casing is broken around the plug in area for its > adapter. > Also, it sounds like it has a could, which may become frustrating as I use > my computer rather a great deal these days. > Ideas? > Thanks, > Karen > > > --- > Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org > Unsubscribe from this mailing list > https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk > --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
[GTALUG] ot: headphone jac replacement?
I might add during the current lock down? Here is the scoop The primary device i use as my computer's speech synthesizer source has a 3.5 inch headphone jack, which has been getting looser over the past week or so. While I had hoped to find a way to tighten it before a disconnect, that hoped was dashed this afternoon. I do have the jac, in fact I have a spare, what I am wondering though is a couple of things. first, if I want to try, or must try reattaching this myself, which tool do I need? screwdriver, or wrench?..or something else? If I want it done by someone else, for which I would happily pay even if moving the machine might be a dance, where in Toronto might I take it in for the work? In theory it is rather important, the replacement synthesizer is s slight fire risk, as its casing is broken around the plug in area for its adapter. Also, it sounds like it has a could, which may become frustrating as I use my computer rather a great deal these days. Ideas? Thanks, Karen --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
