Re: [GTALUG] Follow-on from Evan's talk: WSLg (graphics!)
On Wed, 21 Apr 2021 at 19:00, Stewart C. Russell via talk wrote: > I see that MS's WSL preview release that came out today now has graphics > support via Wayland. It's got some clever stuff behind it, and is explained > here: > > WSLg Architecture | Windows Command Line — > https://devblogs.microsoft.com/commandline/wslg-architecture/ > > Accelerated graphics and a built-in Pulse Audio server. Rather nicely done. > Oh lord. If anyone recalls my talk, one of the reasons I went to Windows and WSL was to get AWAY from Pulse Audio! :-) - Evan --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
[GTALUG] Follow-on from Evan's talk: WSLg (graphics!)
I see that MS's WSL preview release that came out today now has graphics support via Wayland. It's got some clever stuff behind it, and is explained here: WSLg Architecture | Windows Command Line — https://devblogs.microsoft.com/commandline/wslg-architecture/ Accelerated graphics and a built-in Pulse Audio server. Rather nicely done. cheers, Stewart --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] ot: headphone jac replacement?
I did speak to this sort of. actually, I have an extension, need to replace it again as it has a short. My headphones must match certain specifications. With my intending to find a second pair when I can get eyes here again. Still the unit itself has outlasted headphone extensions and headphones without missing a beat. They were built like a tank, and kept in production because of all the reading abilities available. Kare On Wed, 21 Apr 2021, Scott Allen via talk wrote: On Wed, 21 Apr 2021 at 15:47, Lennart Sorensen via talk wrote: Makes me wonder if a short 3.5mm extension cord would be worth adding so you can leave it attached all the time, and plug into the end of the extension instead, and hence move the wear to that location instead and spare the poor old machine itself. I could be wrong but from what I've gathered so far, there are no broken wires or wear on the contacts in the jack itself. The only problem is that the nut or threaded ring, that mounts the jack to the chassis, has come loose. It just needs to be screwed back on and tightened. It has been suggested that Loctite or some other similar substance be added to the thread, to prevent this problem from happening in the future. I don't think Karen has said whether the plug is frequently inserted and removed from the jack or not. -- Scott --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] ot: headphone jac replacement?
On Wed, 21 Apr 2021 at 15:47, Lennart Sorensen via talk wrote: > Makes me wonder if a short 3.5mm extension cord would be worth adding > so you can leave it attached all the time, and plug into the end of the > extension instead, and hence move the wear to that location instead and > spare the poor old machine itself. I could be wrong but from what I've gathered so far, there are no broken wires or wear on the contacts in the jack itself. The only problem is that the nut or threaded ring, that mounts the jack to the chassis, has come loose. It just needs to be screwed back on and tightened. It has been suggested that Loctite or some other similar substance be added to the thread, to prevent this problem from happening in the future. I don't think Karen has said whether the plug is frequently inserted and removed from the jack or not. -- Scott --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] ot: headphone jac replacement?
On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 02:13:52PM -0400, Karen Lewellen via talk wrote: > Will seek out a handyman then. > As explained, this is the equal to my computer monitor, with the machine > very difficult to replace. > Since the headphone jack gets allot of activity, and extends out of the hod > of the machine, after several years of my moving the headphones several > times a day, I am not surprised. > happened once before in 2015 or 16. > My personal engineer just tightened it, no chemical smell recalled, which is > why I thought a small wrench could tighten the nut itself. > It sits beside a comparative jack which, if one uses an audio patch chord > allows one to record the information onto external audio media like a > cassette tape. Makes me wonder if a short 3.5mm extension cord would be worth adding so you can leave it attached all the time, and plug into the end of the extension instead, and hence move the wear to that location instead and spare the poor old machine itself. -- Len Sorensen --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] ot: headphone jac replacement?
On Wed, 21 Apr 2021, James Knott via talk wrote: Building and installing are entirely different things. This guy lived in a townhouse in the Guildwood area of Scarborough. The roof was very steep and awkward to get to. You wouldn't want a blind person up there. Even I, as a young healthy 20 year old guy back then, was very cautious about doing that. Oh laughs...well perhaps in that situation smiles. Kare --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] ot: headphone jac replacement?
On 2021-04-21 2:53 p.m., Karen Lewellen wrote: I could introduce you to some blind armature radio operators who built their antenna from scratch. Building and installing are entirely different things. This guy lived in a townhouse in the Guildwood area of Scarborough. The roof was very steep and awkward to get to. You wouldn't want a blind person up there. Even I, as a young healthy 20 year old guy back then, was very cautious about doing that. --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] ot: headphone jac replacement?
On Wed, 21 Apr 2021, James Knott via talk wrote: The purpose of the Loctite or other is to keep something that uses screw threads from loosening. Based on your description, a ring, or more likely a nut, has come loose. A bit of Loktite can keep that from happening and this is often done in industry. I have many years experience as a technician working on things far more complex than a loose headphone jack, as have others here. For someone with decent vision and who's not all thumbs, such a repair would be trivial. As I said, you don't have to go to a shop. Just let someone help you. If you are in my area, I would have no problem doing so and I have had my first COVID shot, so I am safe. I have no issues getting help with the task, its locating the help that remains the issue. Incidentally, one thing I did many years ago was sponsor a blind amateur radio operator. This involved doing some things, such as installing an antenna, which he was unable to do and to ensure the equipment was being operated properly. Goodness that really illustrates how blind differs from person to person. I could introduce you to some blind armature radio operators who built their antenna from scratch. Xerox adaptive technology used to train blind engineers to repair these machines, I believe Frontier computers here in Toronto built them many years back. Truly getting help is not something I take issue with at all. but that still means locating that help. --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] ot: headphone jac replacement?
On 2021-04-21 2:39 p.m., Karen Lewellen wrote: I am in Toronto gerrard east and Woodbine That's not far from my first address. When I was born, my parents had a bake shop on Kingston Rd. near Lawlor. However, that was a few years ago. ;-) --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] ot: headphone jac replacement?
On 2021-04-21 2:25 p.m., Karen Lewellen wrote: Karen The purpose of the Loctite or other is to keep something that uses screw threads from loosening. Based on your description, a ring, or more likely a nut, has come loose. A bit of Loktite can keep that from happening and this is often done in industry. I have many years experience as a technician working on things far more complex than a loose headphone jack, as have others here. For someone with decent vision and who's not all thumbs, such a repair would be trivial. As I said, you don't have to go to a shop. Just let someone help you. If you are in my area, I would have no problem doing so and I have had my first COVID shot, so I am safe. Incidentally, one thing I did many years ago was sponsor a blind amateur radio operator. This involved doing some things, such as installing an antenna, which he was unable to do and to ensure the equipment was being operated properly. --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] ot: headphone jac replacement?
On Wed, 21 Apr 2021, James Knott via talk wrote: Which was why my very first question was for a place I could take the machine and have the work done. Do you not know anyone who could help. It's a very trivial thing to do. Perhaps if you mentioned what area you lived in, someone might volunteer. I'm in Mississauga. Oh, fine point. Sorry, Its a little scary, the machine is rather important. I am in Toronto gerrard east and Woodbine, technically upper beaches. Kare --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] ot: headphone jac replacement?
actually, this particular edition of the machine is about 5 years old. While Xerox introduced the reading edge in the mid 1990s, they kept producing them for years, passing production onto another company. This is not a casual piece of electronics certainly. I feel sure if those people were using this to access the printed page, and run their computer, it wold not be just tossed smiles. Besides, the thing I am using right now sounds like it is congested and is not pronouncing things well..which is no way to get any work done. Kare On Wed, 21 Apr 2021, Don Tai wrote: Audio jacks do wear out given enough use. They have a built-in spring and are coated with chrome, which wears down, and then can oxidize. You also can't get in there and clean the contacts with a pencil eraser, as it is too small. The audio jack is really a wear item, and would only take a couple of minutes to replace, even if soldering is required. Your machine is ancient and needs to be treated with the utmost care, but you knew that already. Maintenance on an electronic product are now pretty rare. People just throw the old one away and buy new. Therefore shops that specialize in reuse of electronic items are almost extinct. Thankfully you only have an issue with the audio jack, which is easily fixed. Don On Wed, 21 Apr 2021 at 14:14, Karen Lewellen via talk wrote: Will seek out a handyman then. As explained, this is the equal to my computer monitor, with the machine very difficult to replace. Since the headphone jack gets allot of activity, and extends out of the hod of the machine, after several years of my moving the headphones several times a day, I am not surprised. happened once before in 2015 or 16. My personal engineer just tightened it, no chemical smell recalled, which is why I thought a small wrench could tighten the nut itself. It sits beside a comparative jack which, if one uses an audio patch chord allows one to record the information onto external audio media like a cassette tape. Thanks, Karen On Wed, 21 Apr 2021, o1bigtenor via talk wrote: On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 10:14 PM James Knott via talk wrote: On 2021-04-20 9:38 p.m., Karen Lewellen via talk wrote: what is loosekite? Loctite is a type of adhesive that is placed on screws or nuts to keep them from loosening. You put it on after the screw or nut is tightend, so that it will not loosen. Sorry - - - if you put locktight on AFTER assembly you will NOT get positive results. What you need is one drop on the threads, but only on the threads and then insert socket from the backside and tighten on the nut from the front side, wait a bit and bob's your uncle - - - - I like the waiting before stressing as it takes a few minutes to do the anaerobic set as I remember. For parts like this I might even recommend using red locktite but that is only designed to come apart with heat. The blue version should be sufficient. As to getting this done - - - - I'm some 2500 km away or I'd offer to do this - - - - even if soldering a new end on is required this is a very easy and very very short fix. Miss Karen - - - - any decent handyman should be able to effect this fix - - - - so if you number one of those in your circle ask them. Locktite is much easier to find today than when I first ran into it. Would suggest that you ask to have all such nuts removed and daubed and retighted. I'm finding it unusual that such a nut would ever loosen - - - - but there you are. Regards Great product with lots of alternative formats for lots of uses - - - good company. HTH --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] ot: headphone jac replacement?
On Wed, 21 Apr 2021, James Knott via talk wrote: Do you not have a friend, relative or other who can assist you with this? If you can't see what you're doing, you will likely have problems. Screwing the ring on is one thing, but using adhesives is another. I am unsure why I would have began this thread if there was an army of assistance here. I remain unconvinced that glue of any kind is needful, based on the last time this happened. If I knew what to get small enough to screw on the jack, My own screwdrivers are either too small or to large, I could get what I need. Otherwise I pay for the professional assistance, which is just fine by me. Karen --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] ot: headphone jac replacement?
On 2021-04-21 2:19 p.m., Karen Lewellen wrote: This might be something where you should seek assistance. If you use Krazy h> Glue, as someone else suggested, you don't want to do it by touch alone. Which was why my very first question was for a place I could take the machine and have the work done. Do you not know anyone who could help. It's a very trivial thing to do. Perhaps if you mentioned what area you lived in, someone might volunteer. I'm in Mississauga. --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] ot: headphone jac replacement?
On Wed, 21 Apr 2021, James Knott via talk wrote: This might be something where you should seek assistance. If you use Krazy h> Glue, as someone else suggested, you don't want to do it by touch alone. Which was why my very first question was for a place I could take the machine and have the work done. Karen --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] ot: headphone jac replacement?
Will seek out a handyman then. As explained, this is the equal to my computer monitor, with the machine very difficult to replace. Since the headphone jack gets allot of activity, and extends out of the hod of the machine, after several years of my moving the headphones several times a day, I am not surprised. happened once before in 2015 or 16. My personal engineer just tightened it, no chemical smell recalled, which is why I thought a small wrench could tighten the nut itself. It sits beside a comparative jack which, if one uses an audio patch chord allows one to record the information onto external audio media like a cassette tape. Thanks, Karen On Wed, 21 Apr 2021, o1bigtenor via talk wrote: On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 10:14 PM James Knott via talk wrote: On 2021-04-20 9:38 p.m., Karen Lewellen via talk wrote: what is loosekite? Loctite is a type of adhesive that is placed on screws or nuts to keep them from loosening. You put it on after the screw or nut is tightend, so that it will not loosen. Sorry - - - if you put locktight on AFTER assembly you will NOT get positive results. What you need is one drop on the threads, but only on the threads and then insert socket from the backside and tighten on the nut from the front side, wait a bit and bob's your uncle - - - - I like the waiting before stressing as it takes a few minutes to do the anaerobic set as I remember. For parts like this I might even recommend using red locktite but that is only designed to come apart with heat. The blue version should be sufficient. As to getting this done - - - - I'm some 2500 km away or I'd offer to do this - - - - even if soldering a new end on is required this is a very easy and very very short fix. Miss Karen - - - - any decent handyman should be able to effect this fix - - - - so if you number one of those in your circle ask them. Locktite is much easier to find today than when I first ran into it. Would suggest that you ask to have all such nuts removed and daubed and retighted. I'm finding it unusual that such a nut would ever loosen - - - - but there you are. Regards Great product with lots of alternative formats for lots of uses - - - good company. HTH --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] ot: headphone jac replacement?
On 2021-04-21 6:33 a.m., o1bigtenor wrote: Sorry - - - if you put locktight on AFTER assembly you will NOT get positive results. What you need is one drop on the threads, but only on the threads and then insert socket from the backside and tighten on the nut from the front side, wait a bit and bob's your uncle - - - - I like the waiting before stressing as it takes a few minutes to do the anaerobic set as I remember. That depends on the type. Some go on before assembly, some after. The ones I've used, after. --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] ot: headphone jac replacement?
On 2021-04-21 12:17 a.m., Karen Lewellen via talk wrote: That is my situation here. I must be able to safely apply this, without seeing its shade onto an extremely small space. Or, I can take this scanner and this ring to a business and pay someone to replace the ring. if so, where? Do you not have a friend, relative or other who can assist you with this? If you can't see what you're doing, you will likely have problems. Screwing the ring on is one thing, but using adhesives is another. --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] ot: headphone jac replacement?
On 2021-04-21 12:09 a.m., Karen Lewellen via talk wrote: What is thread locker? Keep in mind i am working via touch alone here. i do have the ring as expressed, so just where would thread locker go, and from where is it obtained? Karen This might be something where you should seek assistance. If you use Krazy Glue, as someone else suggested, you don't want to do it by touch alone. --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] ot: headphone jac replacement?
Like Howard I am a CET and in the day when I was learning, the programs actively discouraged people with problems like colour blindness. Almost all the courses were technical or math related and no thought was given to human factors or access for people with impairments. I would hope that things are a bit better now. I know that you can get the ring back on by feel having done the same kind of thing many times working on objects that are not visible while being worked on. Products like locktite or Krazy glue will require a reasonable level of eye-hand co-ordination and may be beyond what your vision will allow. In essence what you are trying to do is stop the ring from spinning off. This can be done by inserting something into the threads while the parts are being assembled or by applying some glue like substance that will bind the ring to the surrounding surface. The problem with the various solutions to this point are that they require knowing how much product you get on the parts and being able to assemble them while touching almost nothing of the parts being assembled. If you go to a local hardware store or Home Depot I am sure the staff would be willing to glue the part in place for no charge if you buy the product. This is a fix that should only take seconds to a few minutes and is not technically demanding. Of course this would require you to drag your scanner out to the local hardware store or Home Depot. On 2021-04-21 12:17 a.m., Karen Lewellen via talk wrote: Okay Howard. Explain how you would tell these apart if blind? What does your engineering background, since you reference here, teach you about working via touch alone? That is my situation here. I must be able to safely apply this, without seeing its shade onto an extremely small space. Or, I can take this scanner and this ring to a business and pay someone to replace the ring. if so, where? Karen On Tue, 20 Apr 2021, Howard Gibson via talk wrote: Karen, I am a mechanical designer and drafter. I am an engineering technologist, certified by OACETT (http://oacett.org). Ask about threadlockers in the hardware store. The really popular one is Loctite 242, which is a lubricating, medium strength threadlocker which is blue in colour. This is very nice stuff for mechanical assembly. The lubrication gives you better control over tightening torque, which is really cool if you are using a torque wrench. :) Alternate threadlockers can be sealing or wicking. Wicking might be very nice for you, but you probably won't find this stuff in a regular store. Most threadlockers are based on Military Standard MIL-S-46163A, and several manufacturers make equivalent, compliant stuff. The colours are part of the standard. Purple is low strength, blue is medium, and red is high strength. The blue, medium strength is good. The red, high strength is difficult to remove without damaging things. The regular Loctite threadlockers can be very nasty around plastic electronics like connectors and PCB components. Be very, very careful to apply it only to metal components. I have had some nasty experiences with this. Consider usng Krazy glue, and wicking it into the thread. If you don't glue your fingers together, you should be fine. Look for a thin cyanoacrylate glue. The thick, goopy stuff won't wick. On Tue, 20 Apr 2021 23:30:21 -0400 (EDT) Karen Lewellen via talk wrote: i feel better that i can place some of the locktite on the ring, then put it into position. Will seek it at walmart or Home depot. On Tue, 20 Apr 2021, James Knott via talk wrote: On 2021-04-20 10:31 p.m., Karen Lewellen via talk wrote: I have the ring. I even have more than one. so you put this liquid on the ring and it sticks in place? Where do I get this product? Typically hardware stores, etc.. Walmart has it. --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk -- Howard Gibson hgib...@eol.ca jhowardgib...@gmail.com http://home.eol.ca/~hgibson --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk -- Alvin Starr || land: (647)478-6285 Netvel Inc. || Cell: (416)806-0133 al...@netvel.net || --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] ot: headphone jac replacement?
On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 10:14 PM James Knott via talk wrote: > > On 2021-04-20 9:38 p.m., Karen Lewellen via talk wrote: > > what is loosekite? > > Loctite is a type of adhesive that is placed on screws or nuts to keep > them from loosening. You put it on after the screw or nut is tightend, > so that it will not loosen. > > Sorry - - - if you put locktight on AFTER assembly you will NOT get positive results. What you need is one drop on the threads, but only on the threads and then insert socket from the backside and tighten on the nut from the front side, wait a bit and bob's your uncle - - - - I like the waiting before stressing as it takes a few minutes to do the anaerobic set as I remember. For parts like this I might even recommend using red locktite but that is only designed to come apart with heat. The blue version should be sufficient. As to getting this done - - - - I'm some 2500 km away or I'd offer to do this - - - - even if soldering a new end on is required this is a very easy and very very short fix. Miss Karen - - - - any decent handyman should be able to effect this fix - - - - so if you number one of those in your circle ask them. Locktite is much easier to find today than when I first ran into it. Would suggest that you ask to have all such nuts removed and daubed and retighted. I'm finding it unusual that such a nut would ever loosen - - - - but there you are. Regards Great product with lots of alternative formats for lots of uses - - - good company. HTH --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
