Re: [GTALUG] [GTALUG-Announce] Meeting Tomorrow
On Tue, 10 Aug 2021 at 12:22, David Mason via talk wrote: > > I just thought I’d point out that the meeting page gets screwy if you look at > it with a window wider than about 80% of a 2560 screen (the left navigation > bar slides over the content block). Same on Firefox, Chrome, and Safari. > > ../Dave > On Aug 9, 2021, 10:03 PM -0400, hi--- via talk , wrote: > > https://gtalug.org/meeting/2021-08/ Dave's assessment perhaps doesn't need a +1, but since I do websites for a living, I was curious. And yes, the TLUG meeting page goes quite wonky on wide screens with bad overlap between the two columns. Ah - they're not columns: I've never used the tag, but it seems to be the issue here? Works great at narrow widths, breaks down with extra wide ones. -- Giles https://www.gilesorr.com/ giles...@gmail.com --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] [GTALUG-Announce] Meeting Tomorrow
I just thought I’d point out that the meeting page gets screwy if you look at it with a window wider than about 80% of a 2560 screen (the left navigation bar slides over the content block). Same on Firefox, Chrome, and Safari. ../Dave On Aug 9, 2021, 10:03 PM -0400, hi--- via talk , wrote: > https://gtalug.org/meeting/2021-08/ > --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] war story: horrible colours on Seiki TV under Fedora 34
On 2021-08-10 9:57 a.m., D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > > I don't really like to black-box nature of the profile presentation > through the Gnome GUI. There should be some tool to examine and nudge a > profile in useful ways. I'm tired of spelunking to find the right software > tools for all these miscellaneous tasks. Yes, there should. But there isn't one that I know of. Linux suffers from having two competing colour management systems. And each of them does one thing fairly well, but neither does all the things reasonably well. As far as I can see, lcms/lcms2 is the older system. It's almost all command-line based. It had an interactive monitor profile tool (lprof) but the developer abandoned it around 2002 and it hasn't seen any updates in 15 years. Argyll is the newer colour management system. It has some graphical tools, but none to nudge colour profiles. There are a bunch of complexities that might be affecting you: * Linux seems to be able to extract calibration information from the monitor EDID. The Asus monitor I'm using, despite me having a manual calibration for it, claims that the ICC profile was something it downloaded from the monitor. It may be that the downloaded ICC has applied any settings you've poked into the front panel, and Linux is gamely trying to correct for them twice. * Nvidia has its own colour calibration deal going on, apparently. It will quietly override any other system settings. (Some apps also have their own colour management: Firefox used to, but I think they fixed that) * The huge amount of effort in colour calibration is for process colour matching in printing. People get paid to get that right, and it can cost a lot of money to get it wrong. Monitors (under Linux, at least) are definitely second-tier. Don't get me started on scanner calibration ... > I wonder if Windows has a colour profile for this monitor. If so, can I > turn it into something that Linux can use? Perhaps a .icc file is exactly > that. Yup. Windows ICM files = Linux ICC files. But a monitor with a few years' use on it will have shifted colour quite dramatically from a new one. I mean, it's not going to be the all-yellow you're seeing, but it may be difficult to get nice colours from it if you apply a factory calibration. cheers, Stewart --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] 'Unable to connect' to https://www.mixingmusiclive.com/
I'm good, now. I called eastlink - problem was at there end. All good, now. Chris On 2021-08-10 10:26 a.m., Chris Aitken via talk wrote: Hi, Firefox suddenly can't load anything at https://www.mixingmusiclive.com/ I don't have a firewall - no that I know of. Searching on Internet for things to try, but as usual hitting problems like advice is to hit Alt, then Tools, then Options, and, of course there is no Options. I have checked with the web admin and she says everything is good at her end. Ideas? Chris --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] 'Unable to connect' to https://www.mixingmusiclive.com/
On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 11:23:08AM -0400, Znoteer wrote: > On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 10:26:58AM -0400, Chris Aitken via talk wrote: > > Hi, > > Firefox suddenly can't load anything at https://www.mixingmusiclive.com/ > > I can load that page, and navigated two clicks to arrive here: > > https://www.mixingmusiclive.com/mixing-music-live-course > I should have added that this is from a reseller (Ebox) on Videotron's network in Montreal. -- Znoteer znot...@mailbox.org --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] 'Unable to connect' to https://www.mixingmusiclive.com/
On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 10:26:58AM -0400, Chris Aitken via talk wrote: > Hi, > Firefox suddenly can't load anything at https://www.mixingmusiclive.com/ I can load that page, and navigated two clicks to arrive here: https://www.mixingmusiclive.com/mixing-music-live-course -- Znoteer znot...@mailbox.org --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] Today! Re: [GTALUG-Announce] Meeting Tomorrow
On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 9:13 AM D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > The actual meeting will be at 7:30 PM on 2021 August 10. > I think that the rest of the message is correct. > Thought that timing was likely but did find the previously listed possibility as 'interesting'. > > We are really lucky getting Alyssa Rosenzweig to talk. She's doing > important and tricky work providing open drivers for pervasive hardware. > Reverse engineering hardware as complex as a GPU is astonishingly > difficult. > > The Linux graphics stack is enormous and I don't understand it at all > well. I really look forward to Alyssa's talk: it should fill in one tile > of the mosaic. I hope to ask Alyssa if she knows a Royal Road to > understanding the stack. > Having long term issues in trying to run a multi-gpu system and lately adding a 4k hdmi monitor monitor into a now 5 monitor display sub-system I also have more than a question or two that I would love some answers for. Likely won't be asking any questions as I'm finding that most of the Linux community doesn't use multi-gpu setups unless its for computing horse power or electronic currency mining which needs are quite different than for a very heavy screen real estate system (better not to frustrate other attendees!). Thanks for confirming the scheduling. Regards --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
[GTALUG] 'Unable to connect' to https://www.mixingmusiclive.com/
Hi, Firefox suddenly can't load anything at https://www.mixingmusiclive.com/ I don't have a firewall - no that I know of. Searching on Internet for things to try, but as usual hitting problems like advice is to hit Alt, then Tools, then Options, and, of course there is no Options. I have checked with the web admin and she says everything is good at her end. Ideas? Chris --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
[GTALUG] Today! Re: [GTALUG-Announce] Meeting Tomorrow
The actual meeting will be at 7:30 PM on 2021 August 10. I think that the rest of the message is correct. We are really lucky getting Alyssa Rosenzweig to talk. She's doing important and tricky work providing open drivers for pervasive hardware. Reverse engineering hardware as complex as a GPU is astonishingly difficult. The Linux graphics stack is enormous and I don't understand it at all well. I really look forward to Alyssa's talk: it should fill in one tile of the mosaic. I hope to ask Alyssa if she knows a Royal Road to understanding the stack. | From: o1bigtenor via talk | To: GTALUG Talk | Cc: o1bigtenor | Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2021 05:55:20 -0500 | Subject: Re: [GTALUG] [GTALUG-Announce] Meeting Tomorrow | | On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 9:03 PM hi--- via talk wrote: | | > https://gtalug.org/meeting/2021-08/ | > | > The Linux 3D graphics stack with Alyssa Rosenzweig | > | > GPUs and spinning cubes - what could go wrong? In this talk, we'll learn | > how 3D graphics works on Linux, from an OpenGL or Vulkan application down | > to the hardware, detouring through the dizzying world of shader compilers. | > | > Lightning talks | > | > This is GTALUG's version of an un-conference, a loosely structured short | > talks emphasizing the informal exchange of information and ideas between | > participants, rather than following a conventionally structured GTALUG | > meetings. If you already have a topic in mind please send an email to | > speak...@gtalug.org to be added to the list of scheduled talks. | > | > Location | > | > We're going to use Zoom for this meeting | > | > Time: Mar 9, 2021 07:30 PM Eastern Time (US and Canada) | > | > | Hmm - - - - dunno how you're able to do this - - - - this | go forward to back in time but I'd bet if you can that this would be quite | readily salable! | | Please advise as to actual meeting time. | Is it possible to 'attend' meeting after the fact? | | Regards | --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] war story: horrible colours on Seiki TV under Fedora 34
| From: Stewart C. Russell via talk | I'd be happy to lend you my ColorHug. Takes about 15 minutes. You will | be amazed at how less blue everything looks, because vendors always set | monitors for maximum brightness and coolness to wow people on the shop | floor. That's a very kind offer. I may take you up on it once the plague is under better control. I'm suffering whiplash from the transition from yellow overload of the bad profile to the blue-forward of the Dell profiles. I don't really like to black-box nature of the profile presentation through the Gnome GUI. There should be some tool to examine and nudge a profile in useful ways. I'm tired of spelunking to find the right software tools for all these miscellaneous tasks. I wonder if Windows has a colour profile for this monitor. If so, can I turn it into something that Linux can use? Perhaps a .icc file is exactly that. I was OK with the previous state where there was no colour profile. Maybe I can go back to that somehow. I'm too lazy/backlogged/content to figure that out. I have a tremendous backlog of "should be easy but I don't yet know/remember how" tasks. One never knows how long they take until one has accomplished them. I lived with those horrible colours for over a month. My "war story" series is meant to document some of the victories. Perhaps I'm too prideful to post them earlier, in the unsolved state. I try to file bug reports when appropriate, even if I've solved the problem for me. This should be useful for all software but I consider it a duty for free software users. --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] [GTALUG-Announce] Meeting Tomorrow
On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 9:03 PM hi--- via talk wrote: > https://gtalug.org/meeting/2021-08/ > > The Linux 3D graphics stack with Alyssa Rosenzweig > > GPUs and spinning cubes - what could go wrong? In this talk, we'll learn > how 3D graphics works on Linux, from an OpenGL or Vulkan application down > to the hardware, detouring through the dizzying world of shader compilers. > > Lightning talks > > This is GTALUG's version of an un-conference, a loosely structured short > talks emphasizing the informal exchange of information and ideas between > participants, rather than following a conventionally structured GTALUG > meetings. If you already have a topic in mind please send an email to > speak...@gtalug.org to be added to the list of scheduled talks. > > Location > > We're going to use Zoom for this meeting > > Time: Mar 9, 2021 07:30 PM Eastern Time (US and Canada) > > Hmm - - - - dunno how you're able to do this - - - - this go forward to back in time but I'd bet if you can that this would be quite readily salable! Please advise as to actual meeting time. Is it possible to 'attend' meeting after the fact? Regards --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
