Re: [GTALUG] [GTALUG-Announce] January Meeting Reminder

2022-01-06 Thread Kevin Cozens via talk

On 2022-01-03 1:50 p.m., Alan Heighway via talk wrote:

*Speaker:* Chris Sullivan
*Topic:* Radio Direction Finding with the Raspberry Pi


Why does this message have a capital A with an upside down v on top of it 
after every word??


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Re: [GTALUG] decent cheap ChromeOS tablet -- can run debian in a container

2022-01-06 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
| From: James Knott via talk 
| 
| I borrowed one from the Mississauga Library and wasn't impressed. You pretty
| much had to do everything in the "cloud", though having Linux built in would
| improve on that.

The idea of ChromeOS is "cloud first".  But there is some provision
for doing offline work.

If you use Android apps on this tablet, you get and Android
experience.  But better because you device support is much longer.

If you install Linux, you get a Linux experience.  With the expected
amount of cloudiness.
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Re: [GTALUG] Man and Info Pages

2022-01-06 Thread David Thornton via talk
"It's complicated"

1. For linux, I'd refer to LPI wording about this.
2. for other l*Nixes, I'd consult their docs on their docs ( said in
"Austin Powers introducing Austin Powers" voice )

I do like info, but my muscle memory makes me man all the time.
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Re: [GTALUG] Man and Info Pages

2022-01-06 Thread Scott Allen via talk
On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 at 11:28, Giles Orr via talk  wrote:
> I open a man page, I scroll - done.  I opened the
> man page because I wanted to learn about the command whose man page I
> opened - I don't want to have to learn about 'info' before I can learn
> about any other command ...

Well, you do have to learn about 'less' or whatever pager 'man' is
using on your system (default or specified).

However, I agree. I never liked using 'info', mostly for the same
reasons you've given.

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Re: [GTALUG] Man and Info Pages

2022-01-06 Thread Giles Orr via talk
On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 at 02:28, Howard Gibson via talk  wrote:
>
>I am updating my UNIX Command Line HOWTO.  I have a remark in my text to 
> the effect that man pages contain text stating that man is obsolete, and that 
> you should use the info pages instead.
>
>I actually have not seen this lately.  What is the status of man and info 
> at the moment?

I think the intention (20 years ago?) was that 'info' should replace
'man'.  I can understand, even appreciate, the idea: it allows
linking, multiple documents per command, and is a "richer" format.
Unfortunately, the reality was that the uptake was awful because most
of us (I include myself in "us" here) hated 'info' and didn't use it
because we couldn't remember the multiple awkward commands required to
interact with it.  I open a man page, I scroll - done.  I opened the
man page because I wanted to learn about the command whose man page I
opened - I don't want to have to learn about 'info' before I can learn
about any other command ...  The people behind 'info' stuck to their
guns for a decade or more, but I think the whole thing has pretty much
given up the ghost at this point.

This is based on my own limited observation and opinion, not any
actual research.

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