[GTALUG] [GTALUG-Announce] Membership Dues

2022-11-26 Thread Warren McPherson via talk
With the agm coming up, now is a great time to renew membership and make a
small twenty dollar contribution to the organization.
For those looking forward to the chance to wind their way through the
Interac E-Transfer process again here is my summary of how it works.
(Actually I forget each time so the novelty never wears off -- luckily it
is easy.)

Log in to your bank and look for "Interac e-Transfers" you may need to go
to the "Transfers" page and then you will see this option.

Select "email method" and use the email address:
members...@gtalug.org

Putting your name in the message can be helpful as the notification I get
can sometimes be a touch obtuse.

Thank you to those who have already contributed!
(I know who you are.  Ha ha)

Thank you,
Warren
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Re: [GTALUG] Forced off DSL by Bell

2022-11-26 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
| From: James Knott via talk 

| It can even do
| routing protocols, such as OSPF and BGP, which can be used between large
| networks.

I have a globally assigned /24.  Historically I've had ISPs that were 
willing to advertise my /24.  I've always connected via DSL on copper.

Daydreaming:

I wonder if I can rent a box at a hosting facility that lets my box get 
into the route-advertising game.  If so, it would be nice to have two such 
providers for resilience.  Then I could tunnel traffic to my home over 
Bell's fiber.

I have no ASN but I imagine that can be fixed.

Why daydreaming?  Because this is probably impractical.
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Re: [GTALUG] Forced off DSL by Bell

2022-11-26 Thread Bob Jonkman via talk

On 2022-11-22 17:51, Alvin Starr via talk wrote:
> voip.ms has a bazillion features but so many choices makes it the 
kind of service you would not want to give your mother.


I wouldn't expect non-techs to configure IVR, ring groups, voice mail, 
hunt groups,   But setting up a single-line ATA using none of those 
features gives equivalent service to POTS, for 1/10 the cost. I did set 
that up for my parents, and it's been the one piece of tech that's never 
required Bob's Tech Support.


For people wanting turnkey VoIP systems there are services like Ooma, 
and ISPs like Teksavvy and Rogers offer their own VoIP service, with 
their considerable markup.


We had a VoIP User Group in Kitchener-Waterloo https://kwvoip.ca, set up 
with the expected attendance of VoIP tech enthusiasts. But the VoIP tech 
enthusiasts had their own VoIP consulting businesses, mostly unwilling 
to share tips and tricks, and the remainder of the attendees were people 
just looking for cheaper phone service; once they found out about Ooma 
or Google Phone they never came back.


--Bob.


On 2022-11-22 17:51, Alvin Starr via talk wrote:

On 2022-11-22 16:47, Michael Galea via talk wrote:


On 2022-11-21 22:30, Alvin Starr via talk wrote:

On 2022-11-21 16:13, Michael Galea via talk wrote:
Hi, Bell notified me that they will soon be shutting down my copper 
telephone service, no options.  My DSL to TekSavvy will go with it. 
Joy.


I run my own NAT/mail/vpn server firewall and I want to keep it. 
Apparently, others have been able connect to Bell by turning on 
PPPoE pass through on the Bell (HH4000) modem.


Has anyone on the list gone this route? Is Bell still dreadful, even 
on fibre? Am I crazy to look at Rogers?


PS: I pay ~$40/Mo for landline, which looks to increase to $52 after 
the change! Robbers!


If they drop the copper then you will need some kind of VOIP adapter 
which is not such a big deal but if you lose power then your VOIP 
adapter will not work unless it has some kind of battery backup.
One thing that was a feature of copper lines was that it provided 
power to run the phone from the central office or remote so that in 
the case of an emergency you would still have service.


A number of years ago I started moving my phone services to a VOIP 
provider and now even my home phone is a VOIP service.

If I am spending over $10/month for 3 phone lines I would be surprised.


Ok, I just have to ask.
 - Who is the VoIP provider?

voip.ms
 - Who assigns you the telephone numbers, and can you transfer an 
existing number to them?
voip.ms can alocate phone numbers in just about every area code in North 
America and I believe some in Europe.

They will also port existing numbers from the existing carriers.
There is some paperwork required to prove you own the phone number.
 - Does your provider support location identification information (I 
have heard it called E911)?  The only reason I keep a landline is for 
emergency dispatch, and that argument gets weaker now that my CO 
powered line will be replaced with locally powered gear.

They do support e911.

That all being said, voip.ms has a bazillion features but so many 
choices makes it the kind of service you would not want to give your 
mother.

Take a walk through their web site and feel free to ask any questions.


It has been fairly reliable for years but at one point my VOIP 
provider was mostly offline for about a week because of a DOS attack.
On the other hand I lost my land line phone from Bell for 2 weeks 
because of some idiot with a back hoe.


My next step is to port my mobile number.







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Re: [GTALUG] Forced off DSL by Bell

2022-11-26 Thread James Knott via talk

On 2022-11-26 12:33, Scott Allen via talk wrote:

No router?

pfSense is a router.


And firewall.
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Re: [GTALUG] Forced off DSL by Bell

2022-11-26 Thread James Knott via talk

On 2022-11-26 12:14, o1bigtenor wrote:

That's what I have here.  I have a Qotom mini PC, with i5 CPU, 4 GB RAM
64 GB SSD and 4 1 GB Ethernet ports.  I run pfSense on it and have a
managed 8 port Cisco switch.  Works very well.


No router?


I just described it.  A computer, running pfSense is my firewall/router 
and it's far more capable than any consumer router you're likely to 
buy.  I have it configured with my main LAN, a VLAN for guest WiFi, test 
LAN and a connection to my Cisco router.  I also have a DNS resolver and 
NTP server on it and that's just getting started on what it's capable 
of.  It can even do routing protocols, such as OSPF and BGP, which can 
be used between large networks.  In addition to a single IPv4 address, 
which uses NAT for LAN, I have a /56 IPv6 prefix, which I can split into 
256 /64s, each of which contain 2^64 addresses.  I also have OpenVPN 
running.


https://www.pfsense.org/
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Re: [GTALUG] Forced off DSL by Bell

2022-11-26 Thread Scott Allen via talk
On Sat, 26 Nov 2022 at 12:15, o1bigtenor via talk  wrote:
> No router?

pfSense is a router.

-- 
Scott
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Re: [GTALUG] Forced off DSL by Bell

2022-11-26 Thread o1bigtenor via talk
On Sat, Nov 26, 2022 at 6:13 AM James Knott via talk  wrote:
>
> On 2022-11-26 06:53, o1bigtenor via talk wrote:
> > I'm in a similar situation - - - they're dragging in fiber out in the 
> > country.
> > Its being worked on at this point so I'm not connected yet but soon I hope.
>
> I checked yesterday and saw 8 Gb was available here.  I checked the
> price and decided against it.
> >
> > Lennart - - - you're talking about connecting direct to your firewall
> > (likely an
> > appliance). I've acquired a mini pc (like the intel nucs), a second mini pc
> > that I will be dropping likely pfsense (firewall) on and also a managed
> > switch.
>
> That's what I have here.  I have a Qotom mini PC, with i5 CPU, 4 GB RAM
> 64 GB SSD and 4 1 GB Ethernet ports.  I run pfSense on it and have a
> managed 8 port Cisco switch.  Works very well.
>
No router?

TIA
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Re: [GTALUG] Forced off DSL by Bell

2022-11-26 Thread James Knott via talk

On 2022-11-26 06:53, o1bigtenor via talk wrote:

I'm in a similar situation - - - they're dragging in fiber out in the country.
Its being worked on at this point so I'm not connected yet but soon I hope.


I checked yesterday and saw 8 Gb was available here.  I checked the 
price and decided against it.


Lennart - - - you're talking about connecting direct to your firewall
(likely an
appliance). I've acquired a mini pc (like the intel nucs), a second mini pc
that I will be dropping likely pfsense (firewall) on and also a managed
switch.


That's what I have here.  I have a Qotom mini PC, with i5 CPU, 4 GB RAM 
64 GB SSD and 4 1 GB Ethernet ports.  I run pfSense on it and have a 
managed 8 port Cisco switch.  Works very well.



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Re: [GTALUG] Forced off DSL by Bell

2022-11-26 Thread o1bigtenor via talk
On Fri, Nov 25, 2022 at 1:29 PM Lennart Sorensen via talk
 wrote:
>
> On Fri, Nov 25, 2022 at 01:36:04PM -0500, James Knott via talk wrote:
> > I use a separate firewall, pfSense, and proper access point.  I have the
> > modem configured for bridge mode.  It's very easy to do.  It's in the
> > settings.
>
> I guess I will find out eventually what their equipment consists of.
> I have read that a Nokia XS-020X-A ONT is involved in addition to rogers
> normally also providing a router/AP as well.
>
> At least looking up one of the houses I know is occupied already in the
> development, rogers is offering up to 2.5Gbit symetric FTTH service for
> $125/month or something like that.  Bell says they don't have info on
> service to that location at this time.
>
> And I did find some posts from people that said they just connected
> their own firewall directly to the ONT set to DHCP and it just worked
> so hopefully it's that simple.
>

Greetings

I'm in a similar situation - - - they're dragging in fiber out in the country.
Its being worked on at this point so I'm not connected yet but soon I hope.

Lennart - - - you're talking about connecting direct to your firewall
(likely an
appliance). I've acquired a mini pc (like the intel nucs), a second mini pc
that I will be dropping likely pfsense (firewall) on and also a managed
switch.

I got this equipment idea from reading recommendations for businesses.

Besides less equipment - - - - is there any other advantages to only
running a firewall and then your home lan?

TIA
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