Re: [GTALUG] wireless to ethernet adapter suggestions?

[D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk]

| From: Karen Lewellen via talk 

| I believe the source calls, or called them wall outlet Ethernet kits.

That's not a reasonable name.  I have wall outlets for ethernet that are 
just plates with ethernet cables connected behind them.  The ethernet runs 
to a patch panel in my basement.

Ethernet has to be carried by something.

- normally an ethernet cable that is a refined version of ordinary phone 
  cable.  A current standard is called "CAT 6"

- it can be carried by radio waves, like WiFi

- it can be carried on an optical fiber.

- it can be carried with CATV co-ax cable (Rogers).

- it can be carried over power lines.

This last one is convenient because it piggy-backs on existing electrical 
power wiring in your house.  This signal is blocked by transformers so it 
probably leaks out of your house but not your neighbourhood.

My guess remains that the pair of units you have is for transmission over 
power lines.  If you cannot easily give a model number, could you say what 
connectors each unit has?  I'm guessing:

- a two or three prong plug to go into a power socket

- an ethernet socket

- perhaps an antenna for WiFi.
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Re: [GTALUG] wireless to ethernet adapter suggestions?

[Karen Lewellen via talk]

sorry,
answered swiftly.
I am very sure this is not the goal, as my adapter has no software 
whatsoever.
as for seeing  everyone's devices, I certainly cannot do this using my 
tools.

I have asked  my landlord if he can see me, and he knows not where to look.



On Fri, 14 Apr 2023, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote:


| From: Karen Lewellen via talk 

| There is no physical modem in my apartment.  Instead, I have a set of two
| adapter I got from the source a few years back.
| they plug into the wall, have a single Ethernet  jack, and when the other item
| is connected to the modem  via the same method, I can use the network, no
| extra software involved.

What are these two adapters?  It is hard to help without knowing.

My *guess* is that they are powerline ethernet adapters.  Here's an
example:

(These happen to be refurbished.)

If this is what you are using, beware that you are on the same LAN as
your landlord.  That means that each of you can "see" all of the
devices on the LAN.  For privacy, each of you might want be on
separate LANs.  (Someone else mentioned this.)
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Re: [GTALUG] wireless to ethernet adapter suggestions?

[Karen Lewellen via talk]

I believe the source calls, or called them wall outlet Ethernet kits.



On Fri, 14 Apr 2023, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote:


| From: Karen Lewellen via talk 

| There is no physical modem in my apartment.  Instead, I have a set of two
| adapter I got from the source a few years back.
| they plug into the wall, have a single Ethernet  jack, and when the other item
| is connected to the modem  via the same method, I can use the network, no
| extra software involved.

What are these two adapters?  It is hard to help without knowing.

My *guess* is that they are powerline ethernet adapters.  Here's an
example:

(These happen to be refurbished.)

If this is what you are using, beware that you are on the same LAN as
your landlord.  That means that each of you can "see" all of the
devices on the LAN.  For privacy, each of you might want be on
separate LANs.  (Someone else mentioned this.)
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Re: [GTALUG] wireless to ethernet adapter suggestions?

[D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk]

| From: Karen Lewellen via talk 

| There is no physical modem in my apartment.  Instead, I have a set of two
| adapter I got from the source a few years back.
| they plug into the wall, have a single Ethernet  jack, and when the other item
| is connected to the modem  via the same method, I can use the network, no
| extra software involved.

What are these two adapters?  It is hard to help without knowing.

My *guess* is that they are powerline ethernet adapters.  Here's an
example:

(These happen to be refurbished.)

If this is what you are using, beware that you are on the same LAN as
your landlord.  That means that each of you can "see" all of the
devices on the LAN.  For privacy, each of you might want be on
separate LANs.  (Someone else mentioned this.)
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Re: [GTALUG] Canadian hosting?

[Dave Collier-Brown via talk]

Microsoft owned an Irish firm, and the US government made MS provide
data from there, over Ireland's objections.

If MS hadn't owned it, the US would have had to ask the Irish government
to seize it,  which apparently is more work that telling MS to surrender it.

--dave

On 4/14/23 06:54, o1bigtenor via talk wrote:

On Fri, Apr 14, 2023 at 1:01 AM Kevin Cozens via talk  wrote:

On 2023-04-11 09:13, Stewart Russell via talk wrote:

US ownership is fine:

There was a big fuss some years ago about the US government being able to
force ISPs to provide access to users accounts, or something like that. I
don't remember the specifics but it was enough that I went with a Canadian
owned company. The situation may have changed since then and they may not
have as easy access to peoples data as they did back then.




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Re: [GTALUG] Canadian hosting?

[o1bigtenor via talk]

On Fri, Apr 14, 2023 at 1:01 AM Kevin Cozens via talk  wrote:
>
> On 2023-04-11 09:13, Stewart Russell via talk wrote:
> > US ownership is fine:
>
> There was a big fuss some years ago about the US government being able to
> force ISPs to provide access to users accounts, or something like that. I
> don't remember the specifics but it was enough that I went with a Canadian
> owned company. The situation may have changed since then and they may not
> have as easy access to peoples data as they did back then.
>
>
AFAIK nothing has changed.
IIRC part of the bruha was due to the IRS pushing its nose into
'everyone's' business.
A US company is subject to US regulations so if their authorities say cough up
- - - -well most companies find it far easier to just cough up.
Doesn't matter that
you are in Canuckistan and so is your company  - - - - your
data/website/whatever
is NOT - - - - so you are now also subject to American regulations.

IMO its bad enough trying to placate the powers that be here - - - -
trying to keep
a second set happy without that being a deliberate choice (actual
physical export
of product) - - - - my question would be why.

So I would suggest that using an ISP based here is a good idea.
(One never knows when some bureaucratic entity decides to go on a rampage - - -
and its even harder to follow when its now not even part of one's national
information system - - - - if you think I'm full of it - - - - look
into the trucking
industry and California and there is LOTS of freight moving to and from there
from here.)

Regards
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Re: [GTALUG] wireless to ethernet adapter suggestions?

[William Park via talk]

Yes, I'm using Asus RP-N12 Repeater (in client mode) right now.  I have 
bunch of devices in the basement with ethernet port only.  My network is 
wireless router upstairs.  In "client mode", it connects to my wireless 
router like normal client and bridges the connection to its single 
ethernet port.  Then, the repeater is plugged into a switch along with 
the said devices.  No problem getting DHCP IP, going out to internet, 
pinging local devices, etc.


I don't think RP-N12 is available now.  So, look for phrases, like
- client mode
- wireless network adapter
- wireless bridge, media bridge
- connects TV, gaming console, etc
in the current models.  I'm used to Asus, but I'm not sure what is the 
current state of market.



On 2023-04-13 18:13, Karen Lewellen via talk wrote:

Hi wise souls,
I hope I ask this question clearly, as it may be hard to picture.
My new landlord is including Internet in my rent, all the more 
motivation to find a solution.
he has bell, fibe for home, which includes things like Internet, but is 
not very aware of unique methods of using the Internet, like Ethernet 
connections.
  for the past year I have quite easily used fibe connections with my 
main machine, so I feel sure this may be more about distance than 
anything else.
There is no physical modem in my apartment.  Instead, I have a set of 
two adapter I got from the source a few years back.
they plug into the wall, have a single Ethernet  jack, and when the 
other item is connected to the modem  via the same method, I can use the 
network, no extra software involved.
The problem we are having though is that for unexplained reasons I loose 
internet access, sometimes for minutes, sometimes for several hours at a 
time.
My first thought was that perhaps the service  upstairs thinks i am a 
threat, but again my new landlord has no idea how to check for this.
To be forthright the Internet shakiness is becoming a major factor for 
me personally, I still have no land line, doing a great deal of work 
with resources on line, like reach my office email.

Leading me to the question.
given adapter  like the one I am using now existed, think 2017 or 2018, 
I am guessing comparative ones exist that allow the Ethernet connection 
to tap into a wireless network.
By which I mean,  there will be no need for the adapter to be physically 
connected to the service modem, the adapter can draw  upon  the wireless 
resources, while still providing say a single Ethernet jack.

Anyone know of such an adapter?
amazon Canada would be wonderful as I have a gift card balance just now.
If confusing, ask questions that make it easier to follow,  my main 
computer uses Ethernet only, I have no wireless resources whatsoever.

Thanks,
  Karen


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Re: [GTALUG] Canadian hosting?

[Kevin Cozens via talk]

On 2023-04-11 09:13, Stewart Russell via talk wrote:

US ownership is fine:


There was a big fuss some years ago about the US government being able to 
force ISPs to provide access to users accounts, or something like that. I 
don't remember the specifics but it was enough that I went with a Canadian 
owned company. The situation may have changed since then and they may not 
have as easy access to peoples data as they did back then.


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