Re: [GTALUG] internet service speed test tip
On 8/25/23 18:03, David Mason via talk wrote: I understand the vendors may optimize parameters, but I figured that UofToronto wouldn't be affected by that, and the numbers were comparable... but perhaps they tune at a different point in the pipeline. ISP's have more to gain by managing the bandwidth on more heavily loaded circuits. So the places you will see traffic management are in places where end node growth has outpaced the original provisioning. If your a retail internet customer trying to resolve a bandwidth problem is like trying to push a string. -- Alvin Starr || land: (647)478-6285 Netvel Inc. || Cell: (416)806-0133 al...@netvel.net || --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] internet service speed test tip
I understand the vendors may optimize parameters, but I figured that UofToronto wouldn't be affected by that, and the numbers were comparable... but perhaps they tune at a different point in the pipeline. ../Dave On Fri, 25 Aug 2023 at 17:14, o1bigtenor wrote: > On Fri, Aug 25, 2023 at 10:06 AM David Mason wrote: > > > > Speedtest (the app) gives consistent results for a variety of test > sites, including UofToronto, Bell Canada, Primus. All are significantly > higher numbers than testmy.net (320Down, 450Up versus 190Down, 215Up on > testmy.net Toronto site). > > > > > AIUI 'speedtest' is most often optimized by the various vendors to > give 'great looking numbers'. > Testmy.net, imo anyway, seem to be more 'real world numbers. > The graphs of the test I find very very revealing - - - - after a > while one gets a really good idea of the > connection possibilities. > > Thanks for sharing > --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] internet service speed test tip
On Fri, Aug 25, 2023 at 10:06 AM David Mason wrote: > > Speedtest (the app) gives consistent results for a variety of test sites, > including UofToronto, Bell Canada, Primus. All are significantly higher > numbers than testmy.net (320Down, 450Up versus 190Down, 215Up on testmy.net > Toronto site). > > AIUI 'speedtest' is most often optimized by the various vendors to give 'great looking numbers'. Testmy.net, imo anyway, seem to be more 'real world numbers. The graphs of the test I find very very revealing - - - - after a while one gets a really good idea of the connection possibilities. Thanks for sharing --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] internet service speed test tip
On 2023-08-25 00:26, Kevin Cozens via talk wrote: The problem turns out to be the web page itself. Some thing is either very wrong with the web page, you need a better browser or something else was running in the background that affected performance. My "slow" AMD FX8320 computer is able to use the Rogers speed test page and the numbers I got are about what I expected to see. One should not need a "fast" computer just to run a speedtest. The only reason I just thought of is that perhaps your internet speed is exceptionally high and that makes the speed of your Internet connection sensitive to the browser and your computer system. This is my result on Rogers, using Firefox: https://www.speedtest.net/result/15165848176 My package from Rogers includes 1.5 Gb down & 50 Mb up, but my hardware limits it to 1 Gb. Of course, some bandwidth is lost to the various overheads, etc.. --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] internet service speed test tip
Speedtest (the app) gives consistent results for a variety of test sites, including UofToronto, Bell Canada, Primus. All are significantly higher numbers than testmy.net (320Down, 450Up versus 190Down, 215Up on testmy.net Toronto site). ../Dave On Fri, 25 Aug 2023 at 08:53, o1bigtenor via talk wrote: > On Fri, Aug 25, 2023 at 7:39 AM Alvin Starr via talk > wrote: > > > > On 2023-08-24 10:50, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > > > Rogers and Bell have web sites for testing your internet speed. The > > > advantage of using one should be that it is a pretty pure test of the > > > ISP's infrastructure. > > > > > I know that Bell has tuned their traffic management rules to prioritize > > speed test sites. > > > > I would be very surprised if Rogers is not also doing the same thing. > > > > The Bell and Rogers hosted sites are the most likely to take advantage > > of traffic management to enhance their stats. > > So you may get results that are close to the maximum that the network > > can support but nowhere near what the network is able to deliver under > > its current load. > > > > > > Network performance testing is best done with tools like iperf. > > > I found a website called testmy.net that seems to do a very good job. > Gives graphing of the results and shows the variability of connection > quite well imo. > > HTH > --- > Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org > Unsubscribe from this mailing list > https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk > --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] internet service speed test tip
On Fri, Aug 25, 2023 at 7:39 AM Alvin Starr via talk wrote: > > On 2023-08-24 10:50, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > > Rogers and Bell have web sites for testing your internet speed. The > > advantage of using one should be that it is a pretty pure test of the > > ISP's infrastructure. > > > I know that Bell has tuned their traffic management rules to prioritize > speed test sites. > > I would be very surprised if Rogers is not also doing the same thing. > > The Bell and Rogers hosted sites are the most likely to take advantage > of traffic management to enhance their stats. > So you may get results that are close to the maximum that the network > can support but nowhere near what the network is able to deliver under > its current load. > > > Network performance testing is best done with tools like iperf. > I found a website called testmy.net that seems to do a very good job. Gives graphing of the results and shows the variability of connection quite well imo. HTH --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] internet service speed test tip
On 2023-08-24 10:50, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: Rogers and Bell have web sites for testing your internet speed. The advantage of using one should be that it is a pretty pure test of the ISP's infrastructure. I know that Bell has tuned their traffic management rules to prioritize speed test sites. I would be very surprised if Rogers is not also doing the same thing. The Bell and Rogers hosted sites are the most likely to take advantage of traffic management to enhance their stats. So you may get results that are close to the maximum that the network can support but nowhere near what the network is able to deliver under its current load. Network performance testing is best done with tools like iperf. -- Alvin Starr || land: (647)478-6285 Netvel Inc. || Cell: (416)806-0133 al...@netvel.net || --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] internet service speed test tip
Kevin Cozens via talk wrote on 2023-08-24 21:26: TL;DR: run the test from a fast computer. Some thing is either very wrong with the web page, you need a better browser or something else was running in the background that affected performance. My "slow" AMD FX8320 computer is able to use the Rogers speed test page and the numbers I got are about what I expected to see. One should not need a "fast" computer just to run a speedtest. I, too, have an AMD FX8320 and measured 970Gbps on speed testing, using speedtest.net which may (or may not) have used my ISP's servers. Have also seen 300 Mbps via speedtest.net (subscribed FTTH speed) that used a server in Portland, Oregon - not my ISP's. Not sure what to make of Hugh's, Kevin's, and my results, but just adding my 2¢ to to the conversation. rb --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
